Too Many Casinos Getting a Bad Rap

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  • i agree also, had a very bad experience, they are scam artists, AVOID!!!

  • LoL...so there are many people facing problems with casino rewards....but the withdrawal is alright...just that they say that i abuse dont know what bonus with them too..and they just cant explain what have i done..
    that's just weird sad

  • This is a nice post I've seen in this forum. I totally agree like other people do, I like playing online casino and I prefer to do that right after my work. This is what I feel after playing casino, I don't think the bad luck that comes whenever I lose, it's just the pleasure and enjoyment that I experience every time I have it.

    For people who'd like to complain about this leisure, try to experience it and enjoy until they realize that casino is a good to have whether you lose or not. It's part of a gamblers life like lipstick saying on his post.


  • This is a nice post I've seen in this forum. I totally agree like other people do, I like playing online casino and I prefer to do that right after my work. This is what I feel after playing casino, I don't think the bad luck that comes whenever I lose, it's just the pleasure and enjoyment that I experience every time I have it.

    For people who'd like to complain about this leisure, try to experience it and enjoy until they realize that casino is a good to have whether you lose or not. It's part of a gamblers life like lipstick saying on his post.


    That's right. I don't have to win to enjoy playing online casinos. Of course it's better to win, but even if I lose I don't give up and try my luck one more time.
  • true but feeling youve been cheated takes the fun out of it


  • That's right. I don't have to win to enjoy playing online casinos. Of course it's better to win, but even if I lose I don't give up and try my luck one more time.


    that is what casinos want us to do hehe, try try try try try and deposit deposit deposit and deposit hahahaha


  • That's right. I don't have to win to enjoy playing online casinos. Of course it's better to win, but even if I lose I don't give up and try my luck one more time.


    that is what casinos want us to do hehe, try try try try try and deposit deposit deposit and deposit hahahaha






    u forgot the fact that they dont always appreciate players
  • Lipstick, isn't SilverOaks casino part of the virtual group?  If so, I can only say that both times I have won, both for over 800.00, I have been paid within the time they advertised to me. All be it too long IMO.  But recently after having a heart attack I contacted my vip rep, Brandi, and told her my situation and she was able to have my payment expedited and I was paid in half of the normal timel.

    Based on my experience, they are not scam artisit but rather just have a lengthy payment process which they are upfront about.


  • Lipstick, isn't SilverOaks casino part of the virtual group?  If so, I can only say that both times I have won, both for over 800.00, I have been paid within the time they advertised to me. All be it too long IMO.  But recently after having a heart attack I contacted my vip rep, Brandi, and told her my situation and she was able to have my payment expedited and I was paid in half of the normal timel.

    Based on my experience, they are not scam artisit but rather just have a lengthy payment process which they are upfront about.


    no, they are not virtual group
    they are ace revenue group
    silver oak
    planet 7
    royal ace
    slot madness

    they are very rogue too
    not so much as virtual group, virtual = roguest of the rogues lol

    virtual group  casinos are
    the virtual casino
    cool cat
    cirrus casino
    palace of chance
    club player casino
    prism casino
    wild vegas
    slots of vegas
    party city casino
    and the new ruby slots (was created when finished vip lounge casino)

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  • I have come to the conclusion that most RTG's are or border rogue.  Stinks when you dont have many other options.  Once Microgaming left the US, things went downhill from there.  I always had great luck at Microgaming and was approved within 48 hours and paid within 2 -3 days after that ... the full amount of my withdrawal, whether it was 500 or 5000.  I cant understand the difference when it comes to paying out. Shouldnt matter ... if you can take deposits, then you sure as heck can approve and payout within a week or less and the full amount.  Having to wait 4 days for approval and then another 10 days + to receive a check makes no sense whatsoever.  I guess you pay the casino, they take their profit and then take care of the player with what is left is the motto of the RTG's. Do I sound sour?????  Well I guess it is because I AM!!!  cheesy


  • I have come to the conclusion that most RTG's are or border rogue.  Stinks when you dont have many other options.  Once Microgaming left the US, things went downhill from there.  I always had great luck at Microgaming and was approved within 48 hours and paid within 2 -3 days after that ... the full amount of my withdrawal, whether it was 500 or 5000.  I cant understand the difference when it comes to paying out. Shouldnt matter ... if you can take deposits, then you sure as heck can approve and payout within a week or less and the full amount.  Having to wait 4 days for approval and then another 10 days + to receive a check makes no sense whatsoever.  I guess you pay the casino, they take their profit and then take care of the player with what is left is the motto of the RTG's. Do I sound sour?????  Well I guess it is because I AM!!!  cheesy


    Most RTG casino groups such as CW group and Inetbet do pay quickly and don't have a limit, or at least the limit is $5000.00 or more.  It is only Slots Jungle, Win Palace and Casino Titan who have stopped paying even their VIPS $3000/week, now only paying $500/week; so if you win a substaintial jackpot it could take months to get all of your winnings.  Not good business.

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  • What do the moderators have to say about the Lucky18 debacle?

  • I was about to ask the same question... I did played there for a few times, didn't win much though, and didn't get to withdraw. Never the less, always get angry to see that a casino goes down, with players left high and dry...
    It would be nice to have some kind of insurance against this problem, a larger deposit a casino must provide in order to get the licence? Not sure what laws cover online gambling, and how different countries cover that...


  • What do the moderators have to say about the Lucky18 debacle?


    They were on our warning list for years prior their closure. So  not sure what you are expecting us to say?
  • I am new to this site. Did this site ever 'tout' Lucky18 Casino? When I see the subject 'too many casinos getting a bad rap' I am immediately reminded of the pungent odor that Lucky18 left in its wake.

    I see that a representative of the 'new' Lucky18 (Jake) posted that all is now well with Lucky18...that was late 2012.

    What has been LCB's followup?

  • LCB had them pretty much always on the warning list. Granted there was probably time when they were not blacklisted , but that was long before any issues even started.

    Yes we had their Rep on board, and that was when this casino changed the management and the ownership , and we had firm assurance that they will sort things out.

    Ofc that never happened and it is why they were not removed from our warning list.

    Eventually they went bust without even notifying players or affiliates and now their site is redirecting to another one.

  • There is so much talk about bad experiences and this thread is good in a way because winning and getting paid is hardly reported. There are delays but by now I think everyone knows this. I just was amused by a thread that a habitual complainer still makes deposits at casinos complaining about. I say play smart, play right and know what to expect before making the plunge.

  • You make a valid point elevator and completely get what you are saying and great advice to our members  wink

  • it's funny to know that people rates a casino due to their losses. regardless if it's online or live or land based, a casino will stay as a casino. you gamble your money and take the risk. that's what a gambler is. people, i think, should rate a casino based on their customer service, WD time and other services too. though i also think that you can't really blame people who lose huge sums of money in gambling.

  • the amounts that some people deposit,  thousands daily, makes you wonder if they are that rich or that addicted to online gambling...how much of those thousands can they afford to lose....how much of a life do they have if they gamble online 24 hours a day??  bad addictions produce bad results....very sad to see

  • Interesting points and it can be very tough for some to find the balance. Anything that is fun can be so addictive especially gambling when the name of the game is "risk".  We are more easily willing to take the chance in anticipation of winning that pit of gold.


  • Also I would add that we have Direct Casino Support Board where you can post your questions, suggestions, complaints etc to LCB Casino Reperesentatives.

    You can always PM me if you have an complaint and Ill try my best to help.

    Zuga


    in casinos that are not marked like nothing here but that link to rogue casinos, what the "rep" does?
    ex: ruby slots - they are not marked here as nothing, but they link to cool cat that is marked...
    whats the reason for this? same group, most of players knows that, but in 1 of their casinos "they have a rep here" in the others "they do not"
  • Actually RubySlots Casino has the warning in its review as, like you said, it is part of that Virtual group.

  • Thanks for the list LuckyRJ. This some good information!  cheesy


  • Casinomeister has a great thing going...he recommends all these U.S. casinos on his website and collects the referrals fees.  All the players there trust him and then deposit to those places which payout at like 50%.  They all lose, but feel good because they think the casino will pay them if they ever happen to win.  Jackpot capital is one of those casinos and so is Club World (the most greediest casino on the internet).


    I havent tested all of the casinos in the accredited section on CM, but around 20 atleast & they are all good casinos! Ive won & withdrawn at many of them. I play at 5-10 of them regularly.

    You should always read up on the diff casino forums about online casinos before you play there.
    There are many good ones, but also many bad ones.


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  • Amazingly penned Lipstick...!! Gambling is an addiction that couldn't be controlled and online casinos draws the players come back and spend more money and time in their casinos through moneyed offers. You can never blame the addiction to gambling or online casinos amongst the players to be "bad" completely, its totally in the player's outlook i guess. Personally, there is no problem for me to gamble on online casinos but i still need to know more on gambling....Thanks for this amazing article, enjoy gambling more on online casinos…!! cheesy


  • I find that the casinos accredited over at casinomeister are the tighest of them all.  The strategy is to say that they "pay" if you win, but the chances of winning are slim to none.  It's really a no win situation for you.  Better to find a reliable casino (if you have to play) and that's not on their accredited list.


    I do not understand why everyone thinks he is the end all be all of gaming - Personally I think he is a joke!
  • Today i only deposit at microgaming casinos. Sadly not for US. But they are the best out there, seriously. They even have tourneys where most of times i also win.

    Pretty amazing , i play Go Wild and Vegas Partner, sometimes others.

  • theres always a 50 50 of what people think of casinos I wish theyed come out with some new good real U.S. casinos soon

  • Well I still think live casinos are abit better then online ones but then again you cant live of it hehe its just for eintertaiment smiley

  • i understand everyone here! some casino's you surprise they are at one time not good! some players that lose sometimes also complain! but mostly complaints are based on there problem not from us! so you can play for sure there!

  • i got a surprise today
    after be verified in sloto cash group
    1st time that i made a withdraw on miami club i was asked by documents again
    rep just said to follow support, EVEN ALREADY VERIFIED, that still musted follow.

    i think not very good answer

    this does not give less trust to them, but to me personaly i got disapointed now, after so many years playing regularly there be asked by docs again

  • I agree... well explained. and simply blunt

  • Whats the best way to keep these casinos accountable and regulated?

  • I try to stick to casinos from known software providers. The games from these are the best. I personally prefer casinos that have games from Net Entertainment. I have never had any problems - even with the less known ones.

  • If you live in the USA, you just hope not to get done in  grin. I always look to see how other people's experience have been, and also i pay attention to the warnings.  @bruno234 that is very sad news for me  sad. I just went through months of trying to get my account verified. ?I sent the docs, had to wait weeks for a reply, got told support replied back when they did not. I can not imagine going threw that again  sad.


  • If you live in the USA, you just hope not to get done in  grin. I always look to see how other people's experience have been, and also i pay attention to the warnings.  @bruno234 that is very sad news for me  sad. I just went through months of trying to get my account verified. ?I sent the docs, had to wait weeks for a reply, got told support replied back when they did not. I can not imagine going threw that again  sad.


    the documents were aproved in 2 days, but, they started count the reversible time again.... good new in that is that i got the tentation of reverse a withdraw of $700 and by luck its already in 2000 and still have more 300 to play, so can be even higher...(or not)
    but is:
    what always had been told, "verify documents once for the group"
    1st cashout that i made in miami club (group of sloto) afterall musted send docs again exclamation
    and even their support, till feb-march of 2014 was awesome, after that, i dont know what have changed, but i just avoid talk to support, last question i made was:

    if there wasnt any way of do another deposit WITHOUT be RE-DEPOSIT OF WITHDRAWAL
    answer: YES YOU CAN RE-DEPOSIT YOUR WITHDRAWAL.

    mean, i ask one thing, answer is totally oposite


  • If you live in the USA, you just hope not to get done in  grin. I always look to see how other people's experience have been, and also i pay attention to the warnings.  @bruno234 that is very sad news for me  sad. I just went through months of trying to get my account verified. ?I sent the docs, had to wait weeks for a reply, got told support replied back when they did not. I can not imagine going threw that again  sad.


    the documents were aproved in 2 days, but, they started count the reversible time again.... good new in that is that i got the tentation of reverse a withdraw of $700 and by luck its already in 2000 and still have more 300 to play, so can be even higher...(or not)
    but is:
    what always had been told, "verify documents once for the group"
    1st cashout that i made in miami club (group of sloto) afterall musted send docs again exclamation
    and even their support, till feb-march of 2014 was awesome, after that, i dont know what have changed, but i just avoid talk to support, last question i made was:

    if there wasnt any way of do another deposit WITHOUT be RE-DEPOSIT OF WITHDRAWAL
    answer: YES YOU CAN RE-DEPOSIT YOUR WITHDRAWAL.

    mean, i ask one thing, answer is totally oposite


    You should try out Goldbet support...  laugh_out_loud When I was trying to verify my account I sent like 30  emails as they were asking for my passport which I don't have and our conversation was like:
    -send us your passport screenshot.
    -I don't have it, can I send you any other docs?
    -send us your passport screenshot.
    -I've just said I don't own it. Can I send you anything else?
    -send us your passport screenshot.

    laugh_out_loud I guess apes have higher IQ.



  • If you live in the USA, you just hope not to get done in  grin. I always look to see how other people's experience have been, and also i pay attention to the warnings.  @bruno234 that is very sad news for me  sad. I just went through months of trying to get my account verified. ?I sent the docs, had to wait weeks for a reply, got told support replied back when they did not. I can not imagine going threw that again  sad.


    the documents were aproved in 2 days, but, they started count the reversible time again.... good new in that is that i got the tentation of reverse a withdraw of $700 and by luck its already in 2000 and still have more 300 to play, so can be even higher...(or not)
    but is:
    what always had been told, "verify documents once for the group"
    1st cashout that i made in miami club (group of sloto) afterall musted send docs again exclamation
    and even their support, till feb-march of 2014 was awesome, after that, i dont know what have changed, but i just avoid talk to support, last question i made was:

    if there wasnt any way of do another deposit WITHOUT be RE-DEPOSIT OF WITHDRAWAL
    answer: YES YOU CAN RE-DEPOSIT YOUR WITHDRAWAL.

    mean, i ask one thing, answer is totally oposite


    You should try out Goldbet support...  laugh_out_loud When I was trying to verify my account I sent like 30  emails as they were asking for my passport which I don't have and our conversation was like:
    -send us your passport screenshot.
    -I don't have it, can I send you any other docs?
    -send us your passport screenshot.
    -I've just said I don't own it. Can I send you anything else?
    -send us your passport screenshot.

    laugh_out_loud I guess apes have higher IQ.


    wow those guys really are awesome (ironic)
    but sloto group support, till feb-mar 2014 i think was really excellent, after that, i dont know what they had changed, but became totally different (for worst)

    and where´s the screenshot of your passport ? lool
  • They are too many online casinos on the market and this is a strange market as there is no ONE gambling commission but a lot of them. What can you expect under this circumstances? It happened many times that I was explaining the terms and conditions to the casino support and not they to me which should be strange but it isn't due to my high education and their poor training. At the end you can trust only other players and their experience.

  • There are some that truly deserve a bad rap due to poor customer service, slow (or no) pay, that kind of thing, but I'm sure a lot of times bad things are posted when someone has a fluke kind of bad experience.  When having the ability to affect others a person should always use restraint before posting, or saying, something negative about anything in life, or anyone.  That's maturity!  Thank you!


  • Gambling: Gambling is the of money or something of material value on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Typically, the outcome of the wager is evident within a short period.

    I am going to play devil’s advocate here. I don’t think it is fair to label some casinos as being “bad” because we have a string of bad luck. A player makes a few deposits and they lose, therefore they are considered crooks. Gambling is a sport of RISK. The odds are never going to be in our favor whether it is a land based casino or online casino. If it was, then gambling establishments would be out of business.

    The casinos are always going to have the house edge. We play because we hope we are one of the lucky ones today to beat the odds. Of course when we lose it makes us mad! That is part of being a gambler. More often than not we are ticked off for losing than happy for winning. But a true gambler knows this going in and takes it all in stride.

    I think in all fairness to the casinos that are considered reputable, to be stoned for our misfortune is not fair. Is there bad casinos that are rogue? You betcha there is. And what is a rogue casino? A casino that never pay us for winning. A casino that procrastinates and stalls before giving us our payouts. A casino that locks our account because we have “won” too much or took too many deposits bonuses that they keep offering us on a daily basis. These casinos are all to happy to give us the deposit bonus and take our money until we win then they pull the rug out from under us.

    Lets not forget what is considered rogue and what is simply a player ticked off because they are having a bad run of luck. Many players read the forum for advice from players before making deposits. What we say is very important to many gamblers when it comes to choosing a gambling site.

    I hope members can take in stride when they read  casino comments that are getting a bad rap may be only because they have not won. Or we get plenty of players that will bash a casino when in fact it is the player who has abused the rules and not read throughly the terms and conditions. Then there are some players who out of vengence want to tarnish a casino’s reputation because they have deposited way too much money and didn’t budget themselves.

    As far as casinos with rediculous playthroughs, you know the terms going in and you took it. I don’t think it is fair to complain when you don’t make the playthrough when you knew all along it was near impossible. Unless you can find a bonus for 30x playthrough or less, I personally would not take it.

    My word of advice before anyone makes a decision on a casino being “bad” or not: unless you read of slow payouts, not paying at all or locking your account unnecessarily then we can’t call them a “bad” casino.

    Lips
      what about when you win and they take bonuses match deposits away cause you made a few withdraws  is that right  they change the rules and do lie to you  the more you win the more they take away from you
  •                 It's always a good idea to get a second opinion.    I  always look for warning signs,  listen to other people's comments/reviews,  and most importantly,  read and understand the fine print/ terms and conditions, etc.    It's kind of a no brainer really.  Some are better than others when it comes to bonuses,  freebies,  deposit match rules, etc.  and it can vary wildly between  groups of the same software.

  • Real deal, we can never control the game.

  • This is the reason we have LCB, to hepl us chose the good online casinos and to warn us about the bad ones before spending our money on gambling


  • This is the reason we have LCB, to hepl us chose the good online casinos and to warn us about the bad ones before spending our money on gambling


    Yep LCB is good for finding the better casinos to play in, but i have always thought the warning system isnt that great here. I think they should de-list casinos from their site once they get a warning on them. or there should be a separate section for listing the casinos that have warnings or rogue status on them. i think i have mentioned this in the past in old posts i made.

    I mean for example the virtual casino group. this site still lists them, they have been known for many years to be rogue, yet they are still listed with warnings on them, i do not think that they should even be listed at all, cos they will never change, and it gives them still publicity, you know the saying, bad publicity is good publicity and all that.

    EDIT: i was blind, i totally forgot about this page they have on this site: https://jswqzs.com/casinos/warnings

    So there is a list of all casinos, it is very detailed too which is a good thing, but i still do think that they should just delist them from the normal directory, and remove the referral links too in my opinion, and just list the names of them on this page above.
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  • I dont hear anything about casinomiester here they list most casinos if there good bad pay out times ect I aways check there before I will play at new casino that i havent played at yet and look for posts about casino to see what the players have to say

  • LCB enlightens all players with all the important information necessary regarding casinos plus player feedback. Why would you "hear" about another affiliate site here? It is like going to Mc Donald's and hanging a sign in the window for another hamburger joint.

  • sorry but as far as I know the more information a player has the better idea you can get about casinio  i believe this site is a casino bonus site casinomister is not maybe you should check it out

  • Withdrawal is the common problem why some casinos get a bad reputation from punters. Recently a friend told me that he wasn't able to withdraw anything from 12Win Casino, he tried to talk to a customer service representative but she just told him that he didn't win any. He even created a screenshot of his winning as proof but it didn't work. Oh well I guess we need to be careful enough by the way that friend of mind is from Malaysia.

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