Too Many Casinos Getting a Bad Rap

Gambling: Gambling is the of money or something of material value on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Typically, the outcome of the wager is evident within a short period.

I am going to play devil’s advocate here. I don’t think it is fair to label some casinos as being “bad” because we have a string of bad luck. A player makes a few deposits and they lose, therefore they are considered crooks. Gambling is a sport of RISK. The odds are never going to be in our favor whether it is a land based casino or online casino. If it was, then gambling establishments would be out of business.

The casinos are always going to have the house edge. We play because we hope we are one of the lucky ones today to beat the odds. Of course when we lose it makes us mad! That is part of being a gambler. More often than not we are ticked off for losing than happy for winning. But a true gambler knows this going in and takes it all in stride.

I think in all fairness to the casinos that are considered reputable, to be stoned for our misfortune is not fair. Is there bad casinos that are rogue? You betcha there is. And what is a rogue casino? A casino that never pay us for winning. A casino that procrastinates and stalls before giving us our payouts. A casino that locks our account because we have “won” too much or took too many deposits bonuses that they keep offering us on a daily basis. These casinos are all to happy to give us the deposit bonus and take our money until we win then they pull the rug out from under us.

Lets not forget what is considered rogue and what is simply a player ticked off because they are having a bad run of luck. Many players read the forum for advice from players before making deposits. What we say is very important to many gamblers when it comes to choosing a gambling site.

I hope members can take in stride when they read  casino comments that are getting a bad rap may be only because they have not won. Or we get plenty of players that will bash a casino when in fact it is the player who has abused the rules and not read throughly the terms and conditions. Then there are some players who out of vengence want to tarnish a casino’s reputation because they have deposited way too much money and didn’t budget themselves.

As far as casinos with rediculous playthroughs, you know the terms going in and you took it. I don’t think it is fair to complain when you don’t make the playthrough when you knew all along it was near impossible. Unless you can find a bonus for 30x playthrough or less, I personally would not take it.

My word of advice before anyone makes a decision on a casino being “bad” or not: unless you read of slow payouts, not paying at all or locking your account unnecessarily then we can’t call them a “bad” casino.

Lips

Extremely well put and to the "T".

Also I would add that we have Direct Casino Support Board where you can post your questions, suggestions, complaints etc to LCB Casino Reperesentatives.

You can always PM me if you have an complaint and Ill try my best to help.

Zuga

WTG lipstick for starting this topic, it's quite an article you wrote here! I can't help but agree with the point you made - we tend not to be objective when we lose the money we deposited in a casino. What's more, I even met some people who were really mad at a casino for losing the free chip they gave them!

Another thing we should remember before we start judging a casino where we lost is how much fun we had there. We seem to forget that it is only a matter of choice how we spend our leisure time. Some would take $50 and go partying in a club. Some would spend them on a nice dinner with friends. And some prefer playing with the $50 in an online casino. Either way, you had fun, enjoyed your free time, and paid for that. What more can you ask, really?

I fully agree with your post Lips. How many times I have seen people complan because the machines were tight, not paying and then a few weeks later, they're posting their "Wins" and all is now forgotten or forgiven.

I now have 2 cashouts that I am "Hopefully" getting. BUt I can be honest and say while some do tick me off, I have sene too many say "It's a good casino" and I just have to bide my time till my winning day comes along.

Well said Lipstick.  The one thing a gambler can never have enough of is self-control.

Thanks guys for your feedback on this topic!! It is appreciated...

Yes catface couldn't agree with you more that we tend to "look a gift horse in the mouth"  meaning we get a free chip and still complain.

And i do understand the frustration gene all too well i might add!

Joesph Kennedy - been wanting to say this a long time to you. I love your name. I love the era.... Back to topic yes you make a valid point about us the GAMBLER!!!

I only bring this topic up to protect all members and protect casinos that don't deserve it. To bear in my mind when someone is complaining about a casino we don't know all the facts, and until we do let's not judge them so harshly.

Lips

Very nicely written, but that doesn't surprise me at all, Lips just got that extreme talent to let it out there, she says the things alot want to say but just can't get it to words to where everyone can understand

Thank You Lips i agree with you completely.

You know me, i rarely complain about online casino sites unless they have truely made me mad, to be honest it hasn't happened other then not being paid by a casino that was rogue to begin with, or it actually being my own fault, meaning i blew the money and lost, realizing i can't win every single time at every single casino i play at.. and yes i will and have lost alot of money, i understand all concepts when it comes to gambling

agreed agreed agreed thats why i always try to put i will wait to see before outright bashing a casino thanks for the post lips

SPAM

ill bash if it doesnt pay (not as in pay well, but pay out), has poor service and blocks accts....as far as not winning, ill grumble, but thats just human nature...after all, i love gowild, and i almost never get to the point of withdraw, lol...but thats just luck...but the service is great and bonuses galore, so losing well, thats just tough noogies for me, lmao

why dont you do your job of watching out for members instead of cow towing to these internet millionaires.  these guys love you and they should if this site wants a moderator that will get tough  with these guys and watch out for members. i just happen to know one

if you're referring to lips, i happen to think she does her job quite well

dtsweet

do you want to buy some swampland real cheap.

hey why all hostility im just trying to improve this website and kick the watchdog effect for this site up a notch . we are going to need it im tired of reading about people getting ripped off each day, lets not be foolish here

there's loads of available info here; to be truly honest, HALF of these problems could have been avoided with a little bit of research and by actually READING these threads
I've been screwed; but it's either my fault or the casino's; it's got zero to do with lcb. If anything, their site has improved my gambling awareness
Why the hotility? Why not say thank you for everything they DO do, instead of the few things they don't

dearest dts

im not trying to do any thing but improve the function of this site. and to keep these guys from getting out of control. let lcb being the best casino site on the net be a no nonsence watchdog site . the good guys wont mind but the bad ones and the ones that are leaning that way should know this site wont cater to them

Why do you feel it's their obligation to be the watchdog, and not just be the best forum out there?

Don't you think you could serve your members better if you offered better protection along w/ the atmoshere you have now. ie tropica is still in top ten casinos after the recent negative postings, should that be a warning?i guess most people would rather get free chips than warnings.what kind of rules are in place about voiceing your opinion. but its an attack .i can see you only want favorable feedback. and my opinion was un called for

You think what you will. Its your prerogative.
As far as me wanting only a positive feedback... Do I appreciate your tone in addressing to Mods and what we doing here, NO I dont. But you are free to post, arent you?
Ill just remind you not to bash at Mods here.
As far as Tropica issue we wont rogue them just coz of one negative post. And you are obviously missing the point of this thread and all that was said here.

Zuga

When i read this it Truely reminded me of why i am so proud and honored to be a member of this forum.................

Thanks, that article was quite an eye-opener for my part.

red32 and unibet ftw!

i read this thread and am looking for a thread on returning reputations of casinos, in my experience tonight i was floored to get a 30 dollar ND tryout at Casino States , Candy D at the suppport desk was very kind with me , i don't know others experience with this casino however with this particular service agent , it was a nice experience.

I do agree somewhat but its not just the run of bad luck that happens for players.

We win some and lose some but when it comes to stupid things like depositing $1000's at 1 casino without a withdraw.

Most people would say "play elsewhere then" when it comes to this. But if all known paying casinos were as random as they all suggest then surely playing at another casino would give the same results.

Losing streaks are not something that is random bad luck. Its when at that moment in time the casino does everything in its power to make you lose. We all know that games outcomes are always decided when you hit spin or deal so if randomness was put into it how is it that for example when playing blackjack you could win quite a few hands in 1 sitting at $1 a hand, but raise to $2 and you have a 20 game losing streak... For me and many others this has happened time and time again so often is the situation that its 1 "randomness" rule for 1 bet amount and another for a higher amount.

Gambling over previous years has always been a bit of fun and a game where you mostly lose, however you do win now and again.

I previously thought and knew of gambling as in essence paying money into a big pot. As it fills up to the top you are given a large chunk of that pot and the rest is kept by the pot owner for regulating and looking after that pot for you. (as an example depositing $20 into a casino each week for 5 weeks and then on week 5 cashing out $60, so overall for 5 weeks you are $40 down but got a bigger sum than you would deposit usually in 1 go)

As the industry has grown so has the greed and this is not just down to players trying for more than they could get.

The house edge is an advantage so in casino terms they always make profit as long as theres players (minus affiliate and card transfer costs) but this advantage has gone above just the typical house edge.

To add to this house edge there is "reversible withdraws". Everyone knows how hard it is to not reverse a withdraw and often money that a loyal gambler has cashed out is thrown back in and lost because of stalling casinos, excessive reverse times mixed with the temptation of them throwing offers to make you come back. Too many responsible gamblers have hit withdraw and wanted their funds but then got tempted to reversing and losing it. Yes it could be put as the players fault but there is no need to let the withdraws be reversible for that long.

thanks, ill be sure to post a fair bit now (of course keeping the negatives to a minimum hehe)

this thread is by far one of the most interesting ones regarding the subject.

in any business where real money is involved, it´s normal for people to look for a scapegoat, once they have a bad run, lose money or whatever. anyone who plays at a casino should def. think about all those things BEFORE they start to play.

sry for bumping such an old thread

I agree with you post Lips....most people do bash a casino for losing but then again alot of people are just venting or sharing our thoughts, which in my opion is kinda what LCB is here for. I've recently had a wake-up call from pretty much the only casino I play at and am currently looking for a new spot. While this casino is perfectly reputable and I fully understand the terms of gambling but I'm finding it a bit hard to believe that I've been on a 3 year losing streak. Yes I take every deposit bonus available to me to up my balance but even with the extra cash not only can I not come out ahead but $300-$400 last a max of an hour if that with $1 bets. Losing I can handle but spending my money and not being entertained for a few hours is what gets me. In three years making 2 or 3 good size deposits a week I can honestly say only about 4 times did I get my moneys worth in playtime meaning my deposit ,although I did not win at least lasted me a few hours. That to me is looks a bit fishy and it's my own fault indeed for continuing to play there thinking this can't go on forever, but I'm finally realizing it's a lost cause. So if I were to name the casino and post this would you consider this giving the casino a bad name or a player venting???

It;s a Jackpot Capital Lips...No joke, every single time I play there and it doesn't matter if I play $50 or $500...all I see is a steady loss until I'm broke...to stretch it out I''ve even went as far as to bet 1 penny on 1 line just to make my final couple bucks last another 10 mins...of course thats magically when the elusive bonus rounds and would be big payouts hit! Yesterday for exampleI deposited $60 and took 100% bonus...went through 537 without hitting a single bonus round and went bust. I cashed in $1.00 in comps and started betting one penny a spin and on my second spin on Ocean Dreams I hit all 5 bonus symbols (paid $5 on a penny bet...imagime what that would be on a $1 bet!) 5 bonus symbols also come with 100 free spins. What bothers me is that this is not a one time or sometime occurance. This has happened with all but maybe 3 or 4 times I've played...and I've played several times a week for the last 3 years....just seems a little unrealistic if you ask me. I only keep playing because I know this place is reputable and keep thinking oh maybe next time it'll last awhile but it never does!

I would definitely try another casino then and definitely choose your slots carefully. Some slots are hotter then others and i don't think Oceans Dream is one of them.

I know we have limitations where we can play but that is not the only reputable RTG. I just played at one the other day and played two hours on a $50 deposit and was up around $200 but of course i wanted more before i would cashout and ended up zeroing out.

Lips

Sorry...the 537 spins were on Naughty or Nice and I took my $1 in comps and played Ocean Dreams...where I woula hit big if I had been playing my normal....but it always seems I hit big when my bets are down and the only time my bets go down is when I'm almost broke lol....as for selecting games there are only a handful that I like so no matter where I play at it's always the same games.....Makes me miss microgaming so much...I only cashed out once there but 80% of my deposits lasted me a good 4 or 5 hours and bonus rounds came aplenty! Which is all I'm really asking for. In lue of going out for an evening I'd rather spend $100 playing games and nothing is more upsetting than losing it all before a waitress could take your drink order!!!

Im kinda getting the same story at jackpot capital satansmuff, long loosing streaks then suddenly i win big and i start loosing again.

But on the other hand ive playd most freechips available to try out other RTG casino's and its the same thing its like either you gonna loose fast or you win huge the middle just dosent excist at the software cause a normal bonus pays 5-10x your bet max and thats not fun when already lost maybe 100$, but thats also the reason i never take bonus for my deposits cause even if u hit nice you will still have a huge playthrough to finish and the chance your gonna loose it all is too big.

Oh my word I was just thinking about this concept. I was looking at some of the comments about some of these places and thinking are you serious? Some people get so bent out of shape over these online casinos that it has me wondering...just what the heck kind of people do these things attract?
Are they people with jobs and steady incomes that can AFFORD to play a game of risk or not? You know this is the same way I feel win I go to land casinos...when you are sitting next to someone who looks like they have maybe 20 dollars in their bank acct and they are mad as hell at the casino because they are losing. You know gambling is not a job or a career or anything like that...i'm just saying.

I find that the casinos accredited over at casinomeister are the tighest of them all.  The strategy is to say that they "pay" if you win, but the chances of winning are slim to none.  It's really a no win situation for you.  Better to find a reliable casino (if you have to play) and that's not on their accredited list.

Casinomeister has a great thing going...he recommends all these U.S. casinos on his website and collects the referrals fees.  All the players there trust him and then deposit to those places which payout at like 50%.  They all lose, but feel good because they think the casino will pay them if they ever happen to win.  Jackpot capital is one of those casinos and so is Club World (the most greediest casino on the internet).

hahahaha  the virtual group has proven itself....somebody must be on the payroll

Business must be REALLY BAD at online casinos because casinomeister is now pulling alot of previous roguepit casinos into the accredited list.  It's really very funny.  Soon, the virtual group will be the top rated casino over there. 

isnt it soooo sad that i used to see so many bad posts about the virtual group and great things about winpalace group and now the tables have turned it seems like the virtual group is trying to change hmmmmmmmmm 8'|it will be hard to trust them because of past wrongs ill wait and see

Hi Rena,

I would still be a bit cautious about the Virtual Group. There has not been enough feedback to convince me yet that they are trying to mend their rogue ways.

I am with you and will wait and see 

Lips

Hi, I was a depositing member at both Slots Jungle and Win Palace, but although they do eventually pay out...the whole "you've been banned from coupons etc" bug bit me too. I was wondering, what is a decent place for US players to play? One that doesn't do anything shady.

I was restricted from redeeming my casino reward from CASINO REWARD GROUP and I dont know the reason (I believe i've done nothing wrong). still have $30 to redeem but I couldnt do anything and the Live Help just said "keep on wagering and will be unrestricted"..

Did they ban you from deposit bonuses after the first time you made a withdrawal and were paid? If so, I would email the rep here and ask him to find out why you were banned.  I was banned at slots jungle immediately after being paid my first withdrawal and even after complaining I am still banned so I don't know how anyone that plays there can achieve vip status. Plus once banned you have to email the casino to ask for your comps to be redeemed.  It is all quite upsetting.

Stay away from Casino Rewards group they are scam artists.  I stopped playing there 5 years ago because I was called a bonus abuser, eventhough, I sent numerous emails asking that I not receive automatic deposit bonuses, they said they could not stop the bonuses and that I had to take them. Then when I tried to redeem my "comp points", they locked my account and termed me a bonus abuser.  I have never, ever been called that by any other casino group and I am a VIP at most.

The are the worst.