So, I signed up at Rembrandt casino some time toward the end of last year. I initially signed up through the LCB link for 10 no deposit spins on Secret of the stones. After creating the account, I noticed my spins are not added and then decided to email support.
Finally, support came back to me after 2 days stating I do not qualify – They never stated why I did not qualify, but given 2 days for a response, I decided not to email them back getting information.
So, after a few weeks, I decided to claim a deposit. They offered a 120% bonus with 66 bonus spins on Gonzo Quest Megaways. I deposited 12 euro and another 14 euro was added plus 66 spins bonus spins.
I never played the spins and tried to wager the bonus. So, I opened Gonzo Quest Megaways and start spinning at 0.20 euro per spin. After about 70 spins I triggered the bonus feature and won x400 my total stake, leaving me with a 90-euro balance. Remember I have 66 spins but selected to play them later. Red Tiger ran a promo of wager 20 euro get 10 spins, wager 30 euro, get 20 spins, etc. I opted in and wagered 20 euro and had to play the spins. Won 0.67-euro cents from the spins.
After a while, I decided to play many games until I realize my wager bar does not move or very slow indeed. So the wager was 26 euro x30 which is 780 euros. The free spins winning have x60 wagering, so that would be 0.67 x60 and it means 36 euros. So, in total, my wager was 780 euro + 36 euro = 816 wager. Keep in mind I have not played my free spins as part of the deposit offer.
I contacted support enquiring about the wager and my first email look like this
Me: Hello
I claimed a bonus and had 26 euros in my account. What is the wager? I wagered around 300 euro and my wager is stuck on 5.5%. What is happening?
Response: Dear Shafiek,
Thank you for your email!
I would like to inform you that our wagering is 30 x (deposit + bonus amount) when your deposit amount is equal to the bonus amount. When it's not equal to your deposit amount it's 60 x bonus. Please keep in mind that you can play any game with your bonus money, and each slot has a different max bet. As well we have a 30% rule which means that you cannot place a bet higher than 30% of your current balance on roulette, poker, and so on.
Let us know if you have more questions, we are happy to help you!
2nd Email
Me: Good day the free spins win was from the 26-euro balance, not the bonus spins. See below the win was already happening before I got the bonus spins
Response: Dear Shafiek,
Thank you for your e-mail.
Please note that if you had any missing winnings in the slot game I would kindly ask you to provide us with the following: name of the slot game, date, and around the time when this happens, also I would kindly ask you to provide us with the screenshot one more time in that e-mail.
I would kindly ask you to provide us with the requested details by replying to this e-mail so we could check this for you further with our game provider
Let us know if you have more questions, we are happy to help you!
Then I had a chat with the live chat agent which looked like this
Your chat number is 1F1-279F3A62-0266
Shafiek: Wagering
Frank:
You are now connected to our LiveChat service
You are now chatting with Frank
Shafiek: Hi Frank
Frank: Hi, how are you?
Shafiek: I am fine how are you?
Shafiek: So - I made a deposit of 12 euros and claimed the 120% bonus and 66 spins. I believe the wager is x30 the deposit and bonus amount. I have not played the spins yet. Thus my balance is 26 euros x30 wager = 780 euro wager requirement correct? However, I have placed bets of around 1700 euros and my wager still shows 22.2%
Shafiek: Please can you tell me how much was my initial wager or why it is moving so slow?
Frank: Let me check
Shafiek: Thank you
Frank: Your Original wager requirements were ?7418.40, and you have 5763.30 left to wager
Shafiek: Why is my wager 7418.40?
Shafiek: I deposited 12 euros and got 14 euro bonus
Shafiek: My balance was 26 euros after I made a deposit, and before my deposit, my account balance was zero
Frank: That is correct but no deposit free spins winnings have to be wagered
Shafiek: What no deposit free spins winnings? I lost all my balance on no deposit winnings that I had before
Shafiek: The only active bonus I have on my account my 14 euros, no other bonuses
Shafiek: WHy is the no deposit winnings not showing as a bonus under my account then with wager? and even so, I never won more than 1 euro in any of the no deposit winnings offers
Frank: I can see that there were winnings made in with free spins in the Game Gonzo Quest Megaways, which bumped your wager requirement up
Frank: So for example when your free spin granted a win of? 89, that amount has to be wagered
Shafiek: But I won the 89 euros when I was playing with my 26 euro balance
Shafiek: I only received the 20 spins after I won the 89 euros, I never won 89 euros on a 0.10 bet, I won that on a 0.20 bet and no deposit spins come in 0.10 bet
Shafiek: I won 83 euros
Frank: Please note that these free spins were 0.2 in value, just checked.
Shafiek: Frank I can provide you with free spins - The first promotion offer was to bet at least 20.00 euros and get 20 spins correct?
Shafiek: I meant a screenshot
Frank: If you want this to be checked in detail please email us and explain this. Our agents can also see this conversation.
Shafiek: Why does your email support take so long to respond? I sent numerous emails already
Frank: Please note that I checked this quickly to give you a short explanation
Shafiek: and I am telling you, Frank, I captured a screenshot at the time I was placing bets with my 26 euro bonus balance - as the bonus spins showed 17.60 euros wagered for the 20 bonus spins
Shafiek: I just send the screenshot to support, can you check it? or can I upload the screenshot here?
Frank: Our agents will need to check this in detail. I am unable to do it now
Frank: Let me ask for a bit of patience, please
Shafiek: What is the turn around time for your email support?
Shafiek: Can you email me this transcript?
Frank: Our goal is to reply within 48h but it is usually much faster
Frank: Please request so in the email too, then we can proceed
Shafiek: Request what in the email?
Shafiek: Should I stop playing for now?
Shafiek: I have the game ID and everything and I sent it with the screenshot to support now
Frank: Request that we email the transcript to you.
Frank: Okay, our agents will reply
Shafiek: BTW where did you see 89 euros? I won 83 euros
Frank: That is correct, my mistake, the round won? 83.06 for you
Shafiek: So if it's a mistake, you guys will fix it?
Frank: Of course but at the moment it looks correct
Frank: Please wait until our agents review this in detail
Shafiek: Okay I sent the email to support, can you confirm it's been received?
Shafiek: 282-279F3F82-027A
Shafiek: that is the reference
Shafiek: So according to you, I won that amount with bonus spins, from the 20 bonus spins correctly? However, I have proof, that I was still wagering towards receiving the bonus spins
Frank: Please note that this is something I was able to see from a quick look
Shafiek: Okay then
Frank: Also, I can see the email has arrived
Shafiek: do you recommend - I stop playing for now?
Shafiek: Okay did you see the screenshot? I did not receive the bonus spins yet
Frank: Please note that I have provided you with all the possible information. Please wait until our agents review and reply
Frank: Is there anything else I can help you with?
Shafiek: Nothing
3rd email:
Me Wagering requirement to be removed.
Hi Support as per the attached chat with frank, he said I won 83 euro from bonus spins, and attached are screenshots showing that I won the 83 euros with the 0.20 euro bet from the 26 euro balance I made and the bonus spins win was 0.65 cents in total. As you can see before I made that win of 83 euros I have not received the 10 bonus spins yet.
Response:
Dear Shafiek,
Thank you for your reply!
Kindly be informed that in the event the bonus amount is not equal to the deposit, your wagering requirements are calculated as follows: (bonus + bonus)x30.
Your initial wagering requirement was 864.00€, however, please note that each win made with free spins also has to be wagered.
This also applies to free spins which were received as a deposit incentive.
Each win with free spins has a wagering requirement of 60x.
Let us know if you have more questions, we are happy to help you!
So, I decided to verify my account as I thought I completing wagering and emailed the following:
- Government Issued ID (Back and Front)
- Passport
- Proof of Address
- Proof of deposit ( Was using Ecopayz proofing the deposit and the account details)
Then I received a response like this:
Dear Shafiek,
Thank you for your email!
To proceed with the verification of your account, we still need the following:
--recent (not older than 2 months) bank statement visibly displaying your name, address, IBAN, and date of issue.
(since the one you have provided us with is not issued by the bank)
Please, note - all information has to be on one page. Screenshots are not accepted. The document has to be a photo of a physical statement or a PDF version of a digital one.
Let us know if you have more questions, we are happy to help you!
Why do you need my bank statement? Did I deposit with Ecopayz – HELLO?
- First of All, Live Chat is never really available so you will be lucky to get hold of them.
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- Second, if you manage to get hold of them, they cannot assist and ask you to email support (Outrageous).
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- Email support takes around 48 hours, just not to address your concerns. They respond with something else that is not concerning your question.
So as explained I never played the 66 free spins, just the 10 spins according to the promo wager 20 euro and get bonus spins. I thought I was going to keep my 66 spins for last if I lost my bonus funds. So I explained to support I only played at 0.20 euro per spin on Gonzo Quest megaways, so there is no way I won that 86 euro from the bonus spins because everyone knows bonus spins in Red Tiger games come at 0.10 euro right?
Support claim that I used my 66 spins, even though I did not play them, as I had enough balance, just to confirm support said any free spins winning must be wagered x60, although Tom I think advised free spins does not have any wagering attached. Now I am CONFUSED!
I wagered more than 2500 euros and had an 800 euro balance left. I still had 5000 euro to go as per support my wager was 7400 euros, on a 12 euro deposit.
I opened a complaint on LCB, it has been over a week and no response from the rep – I decided to play the balance away was left with 1000 euro but could not complete.
- Live Chat useless - Not Sure why they are there
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- Support does not address your questions but beat around the bush
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- Absurd wagering requirements and they could not prove I won 89 euro from those spins, even though I could prove I won 86 euro from a 0.20 bet and they claimed the 66 spins was at 0.20 ridiculous.
- The Forum Rep does not bother to respond to my LCB complaint ( I am sure he knows what a Shiitty casino they are) and is tired of dealing with people on LCB who has issues, simply because the entire casino staff does treat them like BS and he needs to deal with it and its out of his control and simply cause he does not get paid enough – (When robberies happened at a garage, does the petrol attendant help you? No they don’t, they get paid a very low salary which is not worth helping to save your life as a customer) – Similar concept of this casino rep explanation!
I decided to kiss that 800 euro goodbye and forget about them. They even froze my account a couple of days later – Most probably saw the complaint.
So, to sum it up:
- I deposited 12 euro – Had a 7400-euro wager
- Support – Does not address my concerns
- Live Chat – Completely useless: Ask me to email support and accuse me of claiming spins without providing proof
- Casino Rep – Does not respond
- Verification was a nightmare – Requesting bank statements, even though I deposited via E-wallet
- Froze My account
The worst casino I had for the NEW YEAR!
Stay away from Rembrandt!
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