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  • Hello everyone!

    My name is Mila, and I am the community manager at DozenSpins Casino, I'd like to tell you about our new online casino and the opportunities it gives to the players.

    Dozenspins is a new high-tech project which makes a bet on the reliability of the provided gaming software, safety of payments and offering only the quality content available on the gaming market.

    It provides players with:

    over 5 000 the latest games from the 35+ top-tier worldwide gaming providers
    over 50+ highly trusted payment providers
    the most enchanting bonuses offers 
    and covers the most target markets at the moment

    We value our players and offering the loality bonus offers for all of them in general, but the most important is aviliability of personal exclusive bonuses for each of them according to the player requires and activites on the website.

     

    I will be glad to be here and to answer your questions or to provide you with any useful information which you may want to know additionally.

    Cheers,

    Mila F

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  • Welcome on board MilaF. Thanks for being a part of our big community. heart

  • Hi MilaF! Welcome to our forum, glad to have you here! thumbs_up

  • Welcome to LCB forum MilaF! Thank you for being available to assist our members! smiley

  • hi MilaF, welcome to our forum! thumbs_up

  • Thank you very much ) Glad to be herethumbs_up

  • Hello. About allreels casino withdrawal. 2 days ago requested withdrawal 280 EUR. Today have verifed my account. And got email about withdrawal shedule:

    Dear, 

    We are pleased to congratulate you on the winning!
    We inform you, that your payments will be made on the following schedule:
    150 EUR will be executed on 18.05.2020

    130 EUR will be executed on 20.05.2020
    Allreels Financial Department will announce you about every payout made by Email.

    In terms is 400 EUR per day.   Why you dont send 280 EUR?

    2.8/ 5

  • Hi olegs, 

    Could you please private message me your casino username? We're going to notify the casino rep and ask for the explanation. 

  • Hi olegs,

    Thanks for sending the username. The casino rep has been notified. We'll keep you posted. 

  • Thank you for the information.
    According to the rules of the casino paragraph 8:

    - Allreels reserves the right to make payments in accordance with an individual schedule and set a maximum and minimum withdrawal amount for each withdrawal procedure as well as the time required for this procedure, which may differ depending on the withdrawal method, account status and other possible factors affecting to implement the process of withdrawing funds.

    Withdrawal limits are set from account activity.
    Your first withdrawal request has already been processed for 150 eur.
    Please check your Skrill Wallet.
    The more active your account is, the more withdrawal limits you have.

    We wish you big winnings and you are always welcome. wink

  • unfortunately the casino looks scam, they requested strange documents like all transactions from the skrill account from the last 90 days which include e-mail addresses of other people not related to DozenSpins, they require the sharing of this data, illegally, it's scammers, russian scammers, hold on from afar, you will never withdraw money, when you try to withdraw, you get a verification nightmare impossible to pass, watch out for them and stay away, withdraw money to a nightmare, i max withdraw is 400e one transaction, they demand documents unlawfully, brazen swindlers.

    I sent them id, card, bill, selfie, screen from skrill account, unfortunately they want something new all the time and suspect that everyone is a cheat, it's better not to play in this casino and choose another one, I have never seen a worse casino.

    I am an honest player, I have deposited funds and lost the bonus and my winnings are due to my deposit without using the bonus.

    2.6/ 5

  • Hi tyraxx,

    Could you please private message me your casino username so we can ask the casino rep to look into your account and tell us what's the issue with the verification of your documents? 

  • Hi tyraxx,

    Thanks for sending the username. The casino rep has been notified. Hope we'll soon get the answer. 

  • MelissaN wrote:

    Hi tyraxx,

    Could you please private message me your casino username so we can ask the casino rep to look into your account and tell us what's the issue with the verification of your documents? 



    I sent the username, I also sent an email to Skrill support describing DozenSpins casino's requests to share email addresses of people who are not DozenSpins customers, it seems illegal to me, I don't know. 

    i can do any screening including face, skype etc but i don't want to break the law.

    2.6/ 5

  • Dear tyraxx.

    There is a limit of 3 simultaneous withdrawal requests. The maximum withdrawal limits per transaction / in 24 hours / month are determined as follows: per transaction: 400 EUR in 24 hours:  per month: 10000 EUR.
    This is specified in the rules of the project.
    And also each withdrawal request is considered individually and depends on the activity of your game account.

    Regarding the passing of the verification procedure.

    At the moment you have not passed it to the end, as you have not provided the documents necessary for its completion.

    According to the rules of Dozenspins Casino 9.1.
    - We may occasionally request additional information or details regarding any deposit made by you.

    The financial department has asked for you:
    - Transaction history of your Skrill wallet for the last 3 months, which should confirm that you top up your e-wallet using real payment methods (bank account/credit card) which belongs to you.
    - A screenshot of your Skrill you used to top up your balance (the page with your tied cards / bank accounts).

    You have been asked to provide this document because you are suspected of violating Dozenspins 8.4 Casino Rules.
    - an account owner is not allowed to transfer funds from your account to other players or vice versa.

    According to the rule paragraph:
    24.1. All information about you and your account, which you use for action on the Website and which we held, is securely stored and remain confidential (if another fact is not noticed in the Terms of Use).

    At the moment your account is open and the financial department is waiting for documents from you to complete the verification procedure.

    Until you complete the verification process, your withdrawal request will not be considered.

    Please send the requested documents to [email protected]

    And only after that will your request for withdrawal be considered.

    2.6/ 5

  • 8.4 Casino Rules.
    - an account owner is not allowed to transfer funds from your account to other players or vice versa.

     

    Do you think this point is about skrill accounts?
    DozenSpins does not have a UKgambling comisions license so that it has not the right to check the legality player wealth, etc.

    if you think it is legal, please write directly to skrill for such information.

    I run a business and use skrill from time to time for this (transferring funds to other people) and cannot give the email address of many other people (who are not your clients)

    I can provide you with all the economic data of my company, NIP, PKD etc.

    my company that deals with rent a car, taxi, and other activities and I have been using Skrill to pay other people from time to time and I am afraid that by sharing them with you I might break the GDPR.

     

     

     

     

    2.6/ 5

  • Hi tyraxx,

    The casino rep's informed us that your documents have been verified and your payment has already been processed. We appreciate it if you can confirm that.

  • I received, but I still think this company is worst nightmare and it's not fair, and these points of the regulations of the company that are pasted by the representative of this company have nothing to do with sharing the data of other people, I understand the verification process because I have been through it many times for many years, but I have not seen such dumb ways not to pay the player yet.


    soon they'll be asking for a 15-year history of their bank account and pasting some stupid point of their rules that says nothing at all.

    withdraw max 200e payout for two days, it's really better not to win there too much because withdraw would take forever, the casino probably focused on accepting deposits, they don't like to pay and they delay withdraws as much as possible.


    this company is a real failure.

  • Dear tyraxx.
    Every casino has rules, we strictly follow our own rules and we want our players to follow them too.

    You have successfully passed the verification procedure and all your withdrawal requests have also been successfully processed.
    Verification is a one-time procedure.

    Each withdrawal request is individual and also according to the rules of the project.

    Please, if you have any questions or difficulties, please contact Live Chat 24/7 or e-mail [email protected]
    We are always happy to help you.

    2.6/ 5

  •  Verification is a one-time procedure mmm let's talk 


    i validate my account before start playing there and i got confirmation from kyc department all set good ""KYC Dozenspins
    Mon 20/06/01 07:00
    Dear We are pleased to thank you for providing us with all data and documents.
    We would like to inform you that your account has been verified with success by our Financial Department.""


    then after months of playing i request withdraw recently and they asked me again for kyc

    KYC Dozenspins
    Wed 20/08/19 08:59

    Dear, 

    We inform you that in order to withdraw your funds quickly and efficiently, we ask you to send us following documents and information:
    - Selfie against the background of our site dozenspins.com with passport.
    - Please provide the selfie holding the piece of paper with the current date indicated on it.

     

    also they denied my withdraw request saying"" At the moment, we are having some technical problems with the Bitcoin wallet ""lol coincidence double email at the same time ..??then if they have really issue with bitcoin how the hell they validate my deposit and money was in my account ???probably the issue work only in one way "deposit are welcome " withdraw we are sorry we cannot proceed right now ? when so ?? no idea ...bla bla bla and of course they push you to deposit with another method if you want to withdraw and of course you have to wager x3 so it's a push push to get your money and if you go for play again of course you gonna lose it

    ""

     KYC Dozenspins
    Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 09:03
    To: @hotmail.com
    Subject: Alternative withdrawal request

    Dear, 

    At the moment, we are having some technical problems with the Bitcoin wallet.
    We are in the process of solving the technical problems of the Bitcoin wallet
    We apologize for any inconvenience.
    The financial department will notify you by letter as soon as it solves and pays you your winnings.
    We kindly ask you to request your withdrawal using Skrill, EcoPayz, Neteller, procedure and our Financial Department will transfer your funds direct to your wallet.
    We inform you that in order to withdraw your funds with the help of chosen payment system, you should execute a minimal deposit using this payment system.
    Only after this step you can request to withdraw as well as your funds, and the amount of the minimal deposit.


    all i can say stay away from this bad casino

    I am not here to argue just to warn friends of this community informed of this casino and its questionable practices

    It's funny how money change a situation 

    You might win some but you just lost one…dozenpins

     

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  • Hello abuzmaster,

    Do you want us to contact the Casino Representative regarding your withdrawal issue? If you do, please send me your casino username in PM inbox

  • no thanks sydney for caring i don't wanna argue with people who don't respect the  rules money already lost because of them and @tyraxx was right they don't like to pay and they delay withdraws as much as possible let them enjoy our money soon they will understand the consequences

  • Good afternoon, in the summer I registered at this casino and managed to win more than $ 1,500 from the first deposit, when I wanted to withdraw my request for Skype verification, when the casino manager called, I answered virtually all questions, but after the call went through, my account was blocked due to contrived For reasons, at first they referred to the fact that the account's mail was not mine and in a man's name, although my mail, and in fact, as they themselves wrote, there is no multi-account, in the end they referred to the fact that they suspected that I had allegedly transferred the account to a third party for the game, although I played myself and, on the basis of these suspicions, they wrote off all the winnings, although I gave them all the documents and said if you do not agree, then go and write to the licensee, but after reading reviews on the forums, it makes no sense to wait for an answer from Kyurosao, because they do not work on problems of the players as needed, I ask you to help in solving this situation, I have previously contacted the Russian-language forums with this complaint and everyone took my side, about the casino refused to address this situation.

  • Hi Zaisa228,

    Please private message me your casino username. We're going to contact the casino and see if they can assist us. 

  • hello my nickname at Dozenspins casino Zaic1337

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  • Zaisa228 wrote:

    hello my nickname at Dozenspins casino Zaic1337

    Thanks. The casino rep will be notified. 

    Rated:

    3.7/ 5

  • Ok. I'm waiting

  • Hi Zaisa228,

    We sent another reminder to the casino rep about your case. They promised they'd reply on this a few days ago but we still haven't heard back from them. Hope we'll get an answer soon. Keep you posted. 

  • Dear MelissaN,

    To clarify the situation with this client, we will reproduce the order of all events.
    1. The game account was registered on the website 2020-05-01 21:28. The profile of the game account was filled on the female data, and from the e-mail address from which the registration was made, it was registered on the male name. We remind you that during the registration the clients agree to follow the rules and conditions of the project. In particular, paragraph 2.6 of the rules 2.6 When creating an account, your personal data must be accurate and, where necessary, kept up to date, such as name, email address, etc.
    2. When communicating with the customer service, the client was communicating 
    from a male name, and therefore it was decided to carry out additional verification by the paragraph of the rules to further identify the owner of the game account. 2.5.2 In some cases, Risk Dozenspins Casino Department has the right to request video verification from the player via Skype.
    3. The results of the video verification revealed a violation of paragraph 13.4. By "fraudulent practice" we mean any fraudulent activity which is/were implemented by you or by any other person (or even group of persons), who did it with using your name and account or who acting in collusion with you.
    - trying to use false or misleading information in registration of account;
    As the game account was registered on the third party which is not connected with this game account, and also the third party continues to communicate with forums in attempts to return access to the game account.
    The third person used Daria's documents for verification that is forbidden by the project rules.
    At registration the following data was specified: Daria Ivanova.
    The E-mail address is registered to Andrey Dolmatov, aka Andrey Chudakov.
    Having considered the results of additional verification and taking into account the violation of paragraph 2.6 and 13.4 of the rules, the administration has decided to cancel the winnings and close the game account without the possibility of recovery.

    All evidence of fraud, screenshots of the player's communication, a record that confirms that the game was played by someone other than the owner of the game account, as well as the fact that the documents "Daria" were used only for the verification procedure we have and if necessary will be provided to the Licensing department.

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  • Everything that the casino representative writes is just speculation, nothing more, you wrote the same thing on Russian forums, but when you were asked to prove in any way, you did not provide anything, referring to the fact that all further questions will be resolved only through the licensing body, the more what's the difference what's the name of the mailbox? What kind of fraud are we talking about if it was Daria who was on Skype during the video conference?Thus, everything that you write above is nothing more than speculation, provide evidence. maybe it's easier for me to communicate from a male name? what difference does it make to you, even though I will communicate on his third person, I like it so conveniently, you cannot forbid me to do this, you requested verification of documents, you were given it, you requested video conversion in Skype, before the risk of deportation Daria sat on Skype and she showed her documents.
    All representatives of the Russian-language forums were on my side.

  • the casino is looking for obvious excuses just not to pay the player's fee ..... All the Russian community was and forums were on my side, such as Affgembler and Latest

  • Hi Zaisa228,

    The casino rep showed us the evidence that supports their statement. Unfortunately, there is nothing further we can do for you. We consider this case as closed. 

  • Hello.

    dozenspins.com took my winningsy 3101 euros and I beg you to help me.
    I registered at dozenspins.com on 10/24/2020 and made a deposit via skrill 20 euros, then I made a deposit of 300 euros and after that my deposit was 1000 euros. In total, I made a deposit of 1320 euros. I didn't take any bonuses, free bets, free spins, I played only with my own money. I played with them and won € 2781 and my total balance was € 4101.

    After that, the support service repeatedly asked me for a passport photo, screenshot screenshots, video recording of the screen as I enter my Skrill and open a page with linked bank cards and transaction history for the last 3 months, a copy of utility bills, a selfie with a passport in front of their website I immediately sent all the documents to them.

    After sending all the photos, screenshots and video from the screen, I received an email from them:

    "When checking your login, a violation of paragraph 1.21 of the rules was revealed: Clients can only place bets individually, group bets are not allowed. Repeated bets on the same results / winners from the same or different clients may subsequently be invalidated. Even after the official result of the competition / athletes is already known, the platform may invalidate the indicated bets if it considers that the clients are acting in collusion or as a syndicate, or the bets in question were made by one or more clients within a short period of time.
    Your winnings have been canceled for violation of this paragraph of the rules.
    Your deposit of 1000 EUR is returned to your game balance. "

    They canceled all my winnings and refunded a portion of my deposit. An interesting fact is that in the history all bets are calculated correctly and there are no canceled or canceled bets. They just wrote off all my winnings from my balance.
    But I did not violate anything, I played only from my computer and have nothing to do with their accusations. I thought it was some kind of mistake and answered them with a letter with screenshots from my account history.

    Here is the answer from dozenspins.com:

    "The violation was revealed by the platform providing the betting service.
    There is no mistake.
    The administration went to meet you and did not block your game login, and also returned your last deposit in the amount of 1000 EUR to the game balance, since you unfortunately lost the last two deposits.
    We value our reputation and always for fair play and quality service.
    For this reason, at the moment, the administration of the project issued a warning about the fairness of the game on your part.
    If you wish, you can contact the authorities at your request. In this case, the Risk Department will provide a full package of documents from the platform with evidence of violation of the project rules.
    At the moment, your game account is active and the withdrawal of funds is also available to you according to the rules of the project. "

    After that, I realized that all the signs of fraud on the part of the casino are visible here and I wanted to withdraw at least something from my balance and then complain about them and demand to return my winnings. I made a request to pay out 1000 euros for Skrill, but the next day I received a letter from them:

    "We inform you that your request for withdrawal of funds in the amount of 1000 EUR has been canceled by our Finance Department.
    Please note that in order to withdraw funds, you need to place a bet on the total amount of your initial deposit at least three times.
    At the moment, your deposit roll is 0 out of 3000 EUR. "

    I wanted to talk and called the phone number that is indicated in their contacts section +356 3550 0490. However, I kept getting "Wrong dialed number" all the time. I called from my phone number, on different days, at different hours, but I constantly heard "Wrong dialed number" and I never got through to them.

    I am ready to provide any documents for verification, go through any checks by Skype or phone. I am also ready to accept payments to my personal bank account or bank card. If dozenspins.com has representative offices in the CIS countries, I am ready to personally come to their office with a passport and any documents.

    They promised to provide "evidence" of my violations, but I ask you to carefully consider their "evidence". I absolutely did not break any rules, I just managed to win and I am sure that they are ready to go to great lengths not to pay me.

    Please help me to get all the money from dozenspins.com. I really count on your help and want to receive from them all my winnings of 4101 euros.

    2.6/ 5

  • Hi ramanah89,

    Thank you very much for the detailed explanation. We are going to notify the casino rep and ask for the exact reasons why your withdrawal was cancelled. Please private message me your casino username and email address you used for registration. 

  • Dear ramanah89,

    The security service of the Dozenspins project performed a detailed check using your RAMANAH89 login.
    Login: RAMANAH89 - has not passed the casino security check.

    The sports betting operator found a violation of project 3.34 rules, namely:
    - The Gaming Account is used for playing in arbitrage situations;
    The Dozenspins administration has the right to declare such bets null and void and block the Customer's account.

    In your game history, the operator of sporting events detected 2 arbitrage bets on Basketball, Liga ACB.

    Due to the violation of this paragraph of the rules, your winnings were canceled and the game balance will lead to your deposit of 1000 EUR.

    As your winnings in the casino (slots) were received after the arbitrage bets were calculated, your winnings in the casino were also canceled.

    After the investigation was completed, the administration of Dozenspins decided to block access to your login and also to return your last deposit of 1000 EUR to your Skrill Wallet according to the refund policy.

    Based on the above, your game account RAMANAH89 is blocked, without the right to open it, your deposit has already been returned to your Skrill Wallet.

    You are not allowed to play at this casino site, as well as at the partner sites specified in the license.

    The Casino is not responsible for opening a new account with you or any losses you may incur after you open a new account. We reserve the right to close any account that was created in violation of these rules at any time.

    2.6/ 5

  • I didn't bet on arbitrage situations, I just bet on live basketball and played in casino slots. Let's imagine that what you say is true, then probably all my bets would be arbitrage and not 2 out of 13. If, according to you, I am a dishonest player and make bets with arbitration, then why should I make other bets on basketball and play slots in casino? What is the logic in this?
    Once again, you accuse me without any proof.
    Again, you say something that does not correspond to reality. Now I will prove it.

    You say "Since the casino winnings (in slots) were received after the arbitration bets were settled, your casino winnings were also canceled."

    Let's dwell on this in more detail and I will prove that your words do not correspond to reality.

    Initially, I played slots for you, and only then did I bet on sports. Here are some screenshots that show that I played in slots for you from 10/24/2020 from 20:47.

    1-3

  • 10/24/2020 at 22:23 I made my first live bet on Spanish basketball

    4

    However, then you did not have any questions about my bets, because I had not yet won against you.

    10/25/2020 at 17:11 I made a deposit of 1000 euros

    5

    10/25/2020 at 17:41 I won 1862.5 euros on slots in a casino.

    6

    10/25/2020 at 20:36 I made a second bet on Spain basketball in live and it was AFTER winning at the casino.

    7

    Once again, I want to draw your attention to the fact that Dozenspins provides fake data, constantly changes its charges and does not provide any evidence. I ask you to take this into account.

    2.6/ 5

  • Hi ramanah89,

    We are investigating this case and asking solid evidence from the casino rep. Keep you posted. 

  • hello, representative does not wish to reply to the message above? or is she silent because there is no answer to this and they thus admit that they are wrong in this situation? After all, no evidence was provided. There is no evidence, which means they are deliberately looking for a reason for non-payment. I ask you to influence this.

  • Hi Zaisa228,

    The casino showed us evidence from their sports platform claiming that you were using arbitrage betting. This is their answer: This player has violated the rules of the fair play project. For this reason, we returned his last deposit to him and he is forbidden to bet with us.
    Terms and Conditions 3.34:
    - The Gaming Account is used for playing in arbitrage situations.

    However, we are waiting for them to get back to us about your slot winnings and why they confiscated them as well.

    We'll let you know as soon as we hear back from them. 

  • Hello. First of all, I want to thank everyone who participated in the resolution of my dispute with Dozenspins

    I understand that I have written a lot of information and you have many other complaints, so below I will give the facts and my comments.

    1. You can see that Dozenspins changed their charge several times. Initially, they sent me a letter in which they accused me of violating paragraph 1.21 (this can be seen in my complaint above). Now they have changed the charge and say that I have violated paragraph 3.34.

    2. They deliberately lied to you that I received slot winnings after winning sports. I denied this accusation and provided screenshots in which I showed that they lied to justify themselves to you.

    3. All my bets were on basketball live, but for some reason they chose 2 bets out of 13 and accused them of arbitration and canceled winnings from all bets in sports and from 1550 bets in casino slots. Why would I want to place the remaining bets in this case and play at the casino for many hours? I have not made any arbitrage bets. The fact that they changed their charges several times proves that they are looking for any excuse not to pay me.
    I will give you an example to once again demonstrate the absurdity of their accusations. Imagine that a player signs up at a casino, makes a deposit, and plays different slots. He is unlucky and loses all the money that evening. The next day he again makes a deposit in the same casino and after several hours of playing different slots he wins the jackpot. However, after verification, the casino tells him that it confiscates all winnings because yesterday a vulnerability was found in one of the slots between 18:51:27 and 18:51:28, for example, and this player was playing this slot at that time. Therefore, the jackpot that he won today was confiscated from him and all winnings are confiscated, and only the deposit is returned and the account is closed.
    Does anyone have any idea how to prove to the player in this example that they played fair? Obviously, the player cannot provide evidence of fair play, but the casino can falsify evidence of their foul play. However, anyone who looks at the totality of all the facts will come to the conclusion that the casino has come up with an excuse not to pay this player the winnings.

    4. They said before that they would provide "proof" and I warned you that they are willing to go to great lengths not to pay me a prize. I do not know what kind of evidence they have provided you, but I highly recommend checking it thoroughly. I do not rule out the fact that they could have falsified evidence.

    5. I managed to record video from my monitor. In this video, I go to every section of my Dozenspins account, go through 194 pages of casino betting history, deposits, correspondence, and so on. It cannot be faked. If necessary, I can provide you with this video.

    6. After sending the documents, they took my winnings and returned 1000 euros to my balance and said that I had to roll my deposit 3 times before I could make a withdrawal, but I did not make any more bets. However, after I made this story public, they themselves paid me 1000 euros for Skrill and closed the account. Why did they do it? Why did they close my account and pay out money without scrolling 3x? Isn't the casino interested in my losing this money by making 3x? I think they did it to make me stop telling the truth about them.

    7. I see that the Dozenspins representative is often online on this forum, but has not posted anything here for several days. This is very strange for an "honest" casino whose reputation is under great threat. They just don't seem to know what to do now.

    8. I called them many times on the phone number that is listed in their contacts. https://dozenspins.com/en/contact-us +356 3550 0490. But I have never been able to get through to them. I keep hearing "wrong dialed number". (you can check it yourself and try to call them). I understand that there are technical problems BUT I cannot get through to them for about 3 weeks. I also wrote about this in the complaint above and they read it, but still did not fix their phone.

    9. They didn't block my account right away. They asked me for a lot of documents, including a video of my account monitor screen, where I show my personal information and transaction history. They probably wanted to accuse me of something else, but I immediately gave them all the documents and videos. Then they first came up with one charge, then replaced it with another charge and took my money and blocked my account.

    10. They have a lot of negative reviews on the Russian-speaking Internet. But I only read them when they took my money and it was my big mistake. I would never make a deposit to them if I read these reviews about them.

    11. I offered them to provide any documents, go through any checks by phone, Skype, and so on, and I was ready to personally come to their office, but they refused me and just took the money.

    2.6/ 5

  • Hi ramanah89,

    We are reviewing the info the casino sent and we'll get back to you.

    They also informed us that at the moment, the Compliance and Licensing Department is already working on this issue and checking. The final decision on the player's situation will be made by the Compliance and Licensing Department.

    We're also waiting for the final decision. We'll ask the casino to provide the comment on your post above. 

  • Hi MelissaN

    Ok, thanks for the help. I also want dozenspins to comment on my post. This conversation will be constructive if they answer point by point to each of my arguments. For instance:
    1 - answer
    2 - answer
    3 - answer
    and so on

    At the moment, they either do not answer at all or only respond to what is beneficial for them and ignore my other arguments and do not answer them in any way. They deliberately divert your attention away from important facts.

    I am waiting for a detailed answer to each item from dozenspins

    2.6/ 5

  • Dear ramanah89,

    Please keep in mind that it is weekend and casino reps usually do not work at weekends. Let's wait until Monday, I hope they will answer by then. 

  • Dear ramanah89,

    The casino will provide their final decision and post it on the forum as soon as their licensing department makes a decision about the situation. 

    However, they showed us the evidence about arbitrage betting and they also provided you with the relevant info as well. As I already wrote in one of my previous posts their betting platform contacted them and sent them the evidence. 

  • Hello.

    I thank you for your help, but this story has a continuation. I just want to share my experience. Trust me, I don't enjoy it, but I feel it is my duty to inform other players about what to expect. An employee of dozenspins.com answered me and, as always, he lied again and, as always, I again showed that he was lying with evidence. Also, his arguments were again illogical and deliberately misleading. And according to the good old tradition, he did not answer at all. Here is his next answer:

    "The security service of the Dozenspins project carried out a detailed check using the login RAMANAH89.
    On October 24, 2020, the bookmaker contacted us with information that the player RAMANAH89 makes arbitrage bets on the next event (Basketball / Spain / ACB League).
    On 10/25/2020, the situation repeated with the arbitrage rate again on (Basketball / Spain / ACB League).

    According to the terms and conditions of casino 1.26:
    1.26 Dozenspins reserves the right to invalidate the concluded betting agreement (including the one concluded before or after the start of the event), refuse to fulfill the obligations under such an agreement (including refusing to pay any winnings) or refund any bet made, in the event of if a:
    • The game account is used to play in arbitration situations;
    Dozenspins administration has the right to declare such bets invalid and block the client's account.

    After the administration of Dozenspins canceled the winnings for the player due to violation of the project rules, it returned the amount of his deposit (1000 EUR) to the player's balance and sent the player a letter indicating that the player must play fair according to the rules and conditions of the project.

    The player refused to continue playing and play fair.

    Since the player systematically made two-day arbitrage bets on identical events, the casino administration decided to void the player's winnings, as well as return the last deposit of EUR 1,000 to him, in accordance with the refund policy.

    The player's deposit was returned to the Skrill wallet on 11/13/2020, and the game account was closed due to violation of the terms and conditions of the project.

    Since the player refused to play fair in accordance with the terms and conditions of the project, he is prohibited from playing on this casino site, as well as on the sites specified in the license.

    I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that the player made the largest bets on arbitrage bets.

    At the moment, the licensing department is already working on this issue and is conducting a detailed check.

    The final decision on the player's situation will be made by the licensing department. "

    Here's my answer, which the support person once again ignored:

    "" The security service of the Dozenspins project carried out a detailed check using the login RAMANAH89.
    On October 24, 2020, the bookmaker contacted us with information that the player RAMANAH89 makes arbitrage bets on the next event (Basketball / Spain / ACB League). "

    In that case, why didn't you immediately block my account and return the deposits? You yourself write that on 10/24/2020 they contacted you and said that I placed an arbitration bet on basketball. Why did you let me play beyond the 24th of the 25th, to play in the casino? You could easily block my account on the 24th, demand documents and return deposits, but you did not. Let's take a close look at the screenshot to understand the strange logic of Dozenspins.

    The screenshot shows that on the 24th I made a bet on Spanish basketball and, as you say, the bookmaker's floor informed you about it. However, the screenshot shows that after betting on Spain on the 24th, I lost the next 5 bets in a row and it turns out that you did not block me just because I lost.

    Then you write
    "On 10/25/2020, the situation repeated with the arbitrage bet again on (Basketball / Spain / ACB League)."

    Then I won big in slots and I made the next bet on Spanish basketball in the evening and then I won five bets in a row in sports. And then you already decided not to pay me. First, having come up with a version about collusion, but due to its insolvency, this version was replaced by arbitration situations.
    Then you talked about the fact that in slots I won from winning money in arbitrage situations, so you canceled all winnings. However, I proved with proofs that I first won in slots and only then made a bet. Rhetorical question, why did you decide to take the money from me after I won, and not when you became aware of it?

    Further:

    You write:
    "• The game account is used to play in arbitration situations;
    Dozenspins administration has the right to declare such bets invalid and block the client's account. "

    You yourself write SUCH BETS, but you took all the winnings from all bets in sports and from all bets in the casino from me. Why didn't you cancel my bets on the 24th? obviously because on the 24th I was in the red with you. You waited until I paid a plus and took away all the winnings from the casino and sports, and also took part of the deposit. Great business model.
    I understand that it is not entirely correct to reason in the "if only, if only" style, but something tells me that if I had lost several thousand with you, then there would be no question of any arbitrage rates. Offers with bonuses and free spins would be poured into the mail, and a daily telephone conversation with a personal manager would become an obligatory ritual.

    "After the administration of Dozenspins canceled the winnings for the player due to violation of the project rules, it returned the amount of his deposit (1000 EUR) to the player's balance and sent the player a letter indicating that the player must play fair according to the rules and conditions of the project. "

    I have caught you lying many times, even in this post of yours and you are talking about honesty?

    "The player refused to play further and play fair."

    I've played before and played fair and won fair. I generally refused to play with you after you brazenly took 3100 euros from me.

    "Since the player was systematically making two-day arbitrage bets on identical events, the casino administration decided to void the player's winnings, as well as to return the last deposit of 1000 EUR to him, according to the refund policy."

    I have not made arbitrage bets. But you yourself accuse me of 2 arbitrage rates out of 13. What kind of systematicity can we talk about here? These are two bets on two different teams, on two different quarters made with a difference of one day, they have in common only that these teams are from Spain. You are again trying to present unproven and untrue information from the angle you need.

    "I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that the player made the largest bets on arbitrage bets."

    I've lost count of the times you lie. Let's take a look at the screenshot again.

    Two bets on Spanish basketball (bets that you accuse of arbitration) on the 24th I bet 300 euros, and on the 25th I bet 500 euros.
    Also, on the 25th, I made 3 bets on Italian basketball Serie A for 500 euros each, and on the 24th and 25th I also made other bets that you do not accuse of arbitration. Apart from these two bets on Spanish basketball, I made bets on other championships for 2,620 euros, and on the Spanish basketball bets that you accuse of arbitration, 800 euros. What are the biggest arbitrage bets you are talking about? You are lying again. "

    2.6/ 5

  • hello millisa, the accusation of artwork? If they mean sports bets, then no sports bets were made and there was no talk of any refund of the deposit, it was not returned, the game was played only in slots, and the main prize of 100 thousand rubles was in the slot.

  • Xmmm

  • Hi Zaisa228,

    Could you please explain the issue? Your complaint has been closed since the casino showed the evidence supporting their statement. 

  • Dear MelissaN,

    After a long investigation by the casino, as well as the Licensing department, a decision was made on this player: RAMANAH89.

    1. All deposits made on this casino website, returned to the player to his payment method in full.

    2. According to the rules and conditions of the casino 3.34:

    3.34 Dozenspins reserves the right to invalidate the concluded betting agreement (including the one concluded before or after the event), to refuse to fulfill the obligations under such agreement (including refusal to pay any winnings), or to return any paid bet in case:
    - The Gaming Account is used for playing in arbitrage situations;
    The Dozenspins administration has the right to declare such bets null and void and block the Customer's account.

    Based on general rules and conditions of the project:
    14.9. In case of any violation of the rules during using the site and its services, or in case of any suspicion of fraud and other illegal actions from the player’s side, the Operator has the right to close the existing player’s gaming account and to follow a message to the player about the account closure. In regard of any alternative dispute resolutions, the Dozenspins administration is ready to provide with the necessary information indicating the reasons to the Third parties involved in resolving the dispute.

    - If Dozenspins administration makes a decision to close the user`s account or if a user on his own make such decision and send an appropriate request to Dozenspins Customer Service Department, the full balance will be paid out unless the user is not suspected in any illegal and/or forbidden (e.g. Arbitrage, etc.) activities.

    Based on this paragraph of the rules the player's winnings are canceled, the player's deposits are returned to the same payment method, and the game account is closed without the right to open it.


    This decision is final and will not be reviewed.

    The Casino is not responsible for opening a new account with you or any losses you may incur after opening a new account. We reserve the right to close an account that was created in violation of these rules at any time.

    RAMANAH89 - You are not allowed to play on this casino site, as well as on the partner sites specified in the license.

    2.6/ 5

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