What would you do? Poker hand of the Week.

You have to fold given its a "Triple up". There is no added incentive for being a chip leader, so the first priority is to stay alive. The reality is this is the type of tourney where you should almost never risk your entire chip stack, even if it means folding AA.

Just think risk=reward. If it does not then lay it down. Stay alive, so play extremely tight and so risky bets or calls.

Now, if I could only follow my own advise... If you've got $6+ in your bankroll, teach that lamer a lesson and call his all in.

Thanks blue and orren! And orren I had a bankroll of $30+

What was I thinking?

This player had bet in the first hand, checked all the way thru and lost with I think it was Jd8s.

Then the very next hand I make a healthy sized bet and he goes all-in without stopping for a thought.

My mind is saying... "Girl if you had any sense you would believe he has an over pair and fold this hand!"  But I did not think so... my gut said, "Go for it!"  

My gut won the argument and there I was, all-in...

The cards were flipped. SB had 66. Against my AK suited.

Held my breath, saw the flop, started breathing tentatively, praying for no 6's...

The Flop: KQK

The Turn: 4c

The River: 7d

Gotta love that Flop...

Then poof he was gone and I was chip leader and went on to get my share of that triple-up money!

katt

Fantastic flop and nice result Katt.  If I'd known that this donkey had bet with this J8 in the first hand, I think I would have said go for it.

My guess with his pocket pair was close!  Glad you won and great decision and result.

blue

Nice going Katt!!

Thank you dear ladies! Perhaps with having the $20 chip lead on him gave me the favor of the RNG! LOL LOL LOL

Welcome home from your trip Rosebud! Missed you on here!  :-*

katt

No pictures for this one I'm afraid.

This was in a $10,000 freeroll.  All the sitouts have been blinded out so only active players are left.

I was dealt pocket 9s and had approximately $15k in chips.  I'm BB and the table chip leader is a serial raising builly who likes to steal all the blinds.  He raises me all in and everyone folds.

What would you have done in this situation?  I was positioned at round 80th out of an original starting field of 10,000.  There were approx 2000 left in the game.

blue

I think I would call his bet and hope to be laughing all the way to the bank. Of course doing that has put me right out the door of many a tournament. Can't wait for "what did blue do?"!

katt

I'd call him and hope for the best.Two things I hate....chip bullies and donks who always raise of go all-in with crap hands.I guess what really bothers me is that when I try that I ALWAYS go down in flames!! ;) LOL

Unfortunately  you have to fold. You are not yet in the $$ so calling would be unwise (Not to say I wouldn't do just that).

In this simple yet very complex game we love so much, it would be a wiser decision to raise all in with that hand. Rather than call all in.

If had made it past the bubble I would likely have said to call.

Thank you for your replies folks.

I did in fact call the all in bet.  The hands were shown and the donkey had 48 suited!

The flop came down K67. The turn was 8 which gave him a pair of 8s.  I really thought I had won this and then the river came down.  It was a 5 giving him the straight.

I was so mad I just shut the whole site down in disgust.

blue

That is just so not right... all in with a 4-8 suited... and he wins on the river. I would have shut it down too.  >:( Disgusting. And of course Orren's wisdom sounds pretty good in hindsight.

katt

Right on there Katt.  I was heading for a payout, I know it.  These donks who just play any rubbish and get lucky, just ruin the game.  "That's poker" they will say but not in my book, more like playing the RNG.

At least there is some comfort in the fact that I read him right - he did have rubbish.

blue

I have found sooo many sites that I run into the donkometer!! They make me want to go all-in just so I can get OUT of the game!! LOL LOL

This hand is a $1 buy in at Full Tilt.

For info, it's early in the game (hand 15) and not much info available re the opponents as yet.

I raised pre flop to 240 and get two callers.  As you can see from the pic, one of the opponents has gone all in.  What would you do?

blue

I think I would play it according to his name! allinrmv! To me that means he is all-in and I should rmv (remove) him.  LOL LOL LOL

Now to my serious side  8'| (oops don't have one of those)... Ok, now to the hand... You raised to 240 pre-flop and it appears he and JimmyJazz both flat called that raise. So, then the flop contains an Ace and unrelated rubbish and he goes all in. At this point I am guessing he has flopped a pair of Aces and very likely a worse kicker than yours. I don't think either opponent has both of the other aces in the deck. I would call him.

What did blue do?

katt

Thanks for the reply Katt.  Nice to see you ....it's been a while.  It was getting a bit echoey (is that a word?) in here! LOL

I'll let you know tomorrow just to see if anyone else replies.

blue

Thanks blue, nice to be back. Think I am recovering from the holidays finally. As for echoey, I am not sure that is a word..word...word...wwoorrddd...wwwwooorrrddd...

katt

I would call too.

medtrans

4s and 9s seem to show up often when I have them in my hand so I would call it too I'm lucky at getting full house and straight will take a screenshot next time!

As for echoey, I am not sure that is a word..word...word...wwoorrddd...wwwwooorrrddd...

LOL LMAO. 

I'd too!!

BTW.... I guess me and Katt both heard that echo!! LOL LOL

Echoey Defunutly nat a vurd :) lol

So here is the result.

I did call and the other player folded.  I figured I was way in the lead which I was - opponent had 2nd pair.  The turn came and my game was over.  I was gutted and quite angry tbh.  Why did this donk call my raise?  It was 8x BB! Grrrrr.  I should have just gone all in and taken down the blinds.

Awww Blue,it never fails does it!! I don't blame you,I would have been gutted,schattered and just plain ole pissed off!! :(

Unreal how these people play.  I say it again...Low cost to them.  He figured it was only $1.00 to enter.  Freerolls are worse.

Sorry blue.

medtrans

Thanks Katt and Medtrans.  I know I made the right decision and I would certainly do it again.

blue

Awwww you got hit with a very bad case of randomnumbergenerationitis! Q8 off... what a joke.

katt

Yeah what a joke indeed.  To call a pre-flop raise with that is just a joke.  Higher stakes is a better class of play (well slightly better).

blue

$250 freeroll at Party Poker.  11k starters down to about 1200 players.

3 possible calls - one being a bigger stack than me and I have pocket 7s.  Incidentally, the big stack called and the other 2 players folded.

What would you do here?

blue

BB could be making a last ditch effort to take the pot, as everyone else flat called. But, it was a lot of people that did that, so BB probably has a decent hand.

Big Stack will not be hurt by calling BB's all in, but would be good to know more of his play style to know if he is just riding along.

You at SB have a decent hand that is made better by position. The advantage of position is not as great as you flat called and gave BB the room to make his move pre-flop.

With BB all in, this hand is going all the way to the river. Calling BB leaves 3 of you. Raising is going to take a lot to shake the Big Stack at this point. May even need to be all in.

Considering all of that and the dang RNG, I would fold and not risk my stack. Then of course kick myself when 2 more 7's show up on the flop.

What did blue do?

katt

I would call and hope for some luck. Likely end up folding later in the hand, but I like to gamble too much.

If I was feeling feisty, I may even raise 3xbet to get the big stack to fold.

Nice to see you back on the forum Kattboots....it's been a while! (Nice to see you too Orren).

I'll let you know what I did tomorrow.  Hopefully, there will be a couple more replies by then.

blue

I'm not to sure what I'd do!! I usually don't like to call with a lower pair and because of your position,I think I'd fold!!

Thanks for the welcome back blue. Can hardly wait until tomorrow to hear "the rest of the story."

katt

So this is what I did.

I thought hard about calling...my gut instinct was to call but I folded and boy, was that a wrong decision especially when you see what the winner had in his hand and what he won on.  I was totally gutted and knew I'd made a big mistake by not calling.

Put in that position again, I would probably do the same though.

Oh blue...  >:( What a mess and so typical... BB was making a last ditch effort as I thought... not much of a hand for that and not a big enough stack to get rid of Big Stack or anyone else. And Big Stack was riding along because he could afford to without much harm. The RNG did its usual thing giving Big Stack the hand on the river. And you banging your head on the screen with Trips on the flop. I did say I would be kicking myself when 2 more 7's flopped, but one more would have been just as bad. Only one of us would have fared well on this hand... Orren the gambler! But, I agree, faced with such a hand I would do the same thing you did. Arrrrggggghhhhhhh.

katt

It was very frustrating and annoying particularly when I saw what the big stack had.  What a joke and what a joke that he won with that rubbish.  You're right, it is typical RNG.  The RNG would have had to go some to make him win if I'd called.  A huge bummer and I think I only won a few cents in the end.

blue

I would definately try get the other bigstack out of the hand pre flop.Pop it up to about 6k should have done the trick.  ;D

The 10bbr shove is not really important not gonna hurt too much but tournament poker all about chipping up and that was a perfect opportunity missed.His flat call weak or genius disguising monster i go for weak as is freeroll most people have no clue what their doing,so perfect opportunity to shove pre 77 gonna be pretty good against his range and u stand great chance to chip up or at least get him fold and u race with original shover.

Thanks Paul for your reply.

I guess it being a low to mid pair was what put me off.  My gut said do it, my brain said don't do it.

Poker eh?

Check out tournament indicator google it not sure allowed post link but it should really help u with tournament poker and u can try it free for 7 days.Nearly every1 has some kinda hud going these days and it's pretty essential if u want to take online poker seriously.  :)

Trust me is not a joke he won with rubbish or the RNG or whatever excuse lol,the mistake in that hand was u gave them the opportunity to basically limp in with regards to their stack.

U have to be able to find the right spots and right decision at right time,basically folding is never really a bad thing,calling is just TERRIBLE,3 bet or shove my opinion would be the correct move there.Sorry for the lecture lolz  ;)

The more poker input in this section, the better for everyone.  Keep it coming.

blue

This is a $1 matrix game on FTP.  4 games for the price of one!

In this hand, I have pocket 9s.  Play has been exceptionally tight with premium hands onlly being played.

What would you do?

Blue,I noticed that you said the play has been tight and I'm not sure if littlenel and nebbioso split that pot before this one???

I'm not sure how to play a matrix game so that has me stumped but I think I'd fold and hope another 9 doesn't show up or a pair of smaller value wins!!

It looks like even if you fold you would still be chip leader or close to it.

A matrix game is just 4 sitngo's in one go so you pay $1 or whatever the buyin is and when the game starts you are all seated at 4 different tables and you play each table as though it were a separate game.  Top 3 get paid at each table and the top 3 overall for all 4 games get paid out too.  You earn points by knocking people out and staying in the game when others are knocked out.

Back to the hand.  Everyone flat called up to the dealer.  Dealer (nebbioso) raises all in, other players fold except littlenel who calls and then it's my turn.

I'll see if anyone else replies before I tell you what I did.

blue

Thanks for explaining that for me!!! Now I might change my answer!! ;) LOL

I think I would have called. You have the big stack and are by no means out of the game if this does not go well. Only $605 more can be risked, so they can't put you out of the game by raising. 9's aren't the best pair, but not the worst either. I am hoping I am right in thinking my opponents have AK or AJ or low pairs that do not get matched. I think with only flat calls the dealer is all-in due to his position and hopes of grabbing the pot. I am thinking LittleNell45 has a good hand, but not good enough to raise to try to get you out of the hand, holding back a little insurance just in case.

What did blue do?

katt

I think either push or fold is ok,more in favour of fold as is way too early to be getting involved.

Calling is a no no with Littlenell still with 605 so best just get it allin if gonna play the hand,no matter what the flop u not gonna be folding 605 chips :)

Definately open that up pre-flop i noticed u limped 99 behind all limpers!Tut tut ;)

So this is what I did.

I decided to fold and the only reason was because the play had been so tight up to that point and hands were generally premium hands.

As you can see from the pic below, my 9s were good and would have held.  Dammit!  Next time, I'm going to shove and no doubt someone will be holding Aces.

Can't be planning to get hit with those sneaky Aces... not good for your play. I would have pulled that hand out, which is nice to know. I love this thread! I learn a lot just trying to figure out what to do and how to say what I figure...

katt

I agree with you Katt.  this is a useful thread and it would be nice to see one that isn't mine LOL

blue