New and updatable list of casinos to avoid !

im always worried since so many casinos have new names.. and ive played for so long at so many different ones..i probably have multiple accounts at several of them so id never deposit cuz im sure they wouldnt pay.  trying to find rtg that are new and reputable is often difficult...i dont often win to attempt cashing out.. but i'd be so worried with most of them. the only ones i could honestly vouch for are Intertops, Casino Extreme, and the old microgaming casino Villento (which i cant play at anymore) ill be letting u know if i have any success with the new diamond reels casino
and a special thankyou to dirk for posting this original thread,, lota time in sir! thankyou!

RED STAG!

Hello,

I thank you for this list of rogue casinos. When I started playing in the online casinos, I encountered the rogue casinos and suffered a lot - Slots Jungle, Begado, The Virtual Casino, etc.

After this terrible experience, I also post many warning comments whenever and wherever I see the names of rogue casino.

And I want to add some comments regarding your post above.

1. Most of software are the BetOnSoft, not the Microgaming (Grand Prive Group).
    And there seem to be some casinos included which are not rogue, but only poorly being managed.

2. 7Red Casino is actually quite a good one of my knowledge, because some of my friends are playing there without any issues in payment.

3. EU Casino - this is SkillOnNet software of whch most of casinos are rogue or of very bad ratings. So, the SkillOnNet itself should be categorized as a bad software. But, Slots Magic casino of SkillOnNet is considered as good, as I know.

I may add some more later.

Thanks.

Thank you for making this post, I  will be reading through this thread for information and obviously also the reason why some casino's are blacklisted.

Again ty for making this list

We cannot eventually state a conclusion that this casinos are o be avoided since some are not. I guess what we players can do to ensure that our money won't go for nothing is by reading the terms and condition and searching for the some reviews on the internet to identify whether the casino is credible or not,

>:(  Hi, I notice that you listed MERMAIDS PALACE Casino has closed as of Dec. 2015.  I started playing there in Nov 2015.  Never knew there was a problem with the casino and played there often with no problems. Made deposits almost weekly whenever the casino rep Wendy would send me bonus offers. However, on March 8 2016, I played without a bonus and won 1,000 dollars and then played it down to 400.00 and requested a cashout.  My withdrawal is still pending and just received an email from them with no ones name saying that they can not make a cashout to my location at this time.  After all the deposits that I made, now there is a problem with them accepting my money!  I have contacted the software providers and have gotten no response. Either the casino is open or closed but taking deposits but not making withdrawals.  This is so unfair that I have wasted my time and money!  Please, just be advised of this casino, MERMAIDS PALACE and it's sister casino, Atlantic Gold.

I do really appreciate the list you've compiled.  When I'm researching online about anything I'm sad to say I look for the negative before the positive. Because people will vote for anything if they are offered something they want such as a discount or coupon.  But there is no getting around a bad casino and unfair practices.  Especially when there are awesome people like you.

Me too, I agree with you. Before I pay in a casino I try it with Free Spins or No Deposit Bonus and I read all  posts of them. If I find more bad experiences than goods I don't pay  in. So I save my money. I find it very efficient if peoples post their experiences.

Are you serious about Silver Oaks casino? I have heard good reviews with their casino. They might be a few who complaint but they are being coordinated to fix what ever issue a customer face.

Can you explain to us your opinion ?? You're sure that Red stag is not safe ?? I know Lcb members that cashed out from Red stag after full playthrough without any deposit..

Hello Dirkeman,

You are right on. I'd like to add that the online casinos of today are indeed complacent. The customer is always right?  What does that mean to the bankster type casino owners of today? Just as you said they are inside out upside down,greedy ass backwards mentality and so on. All of them will soon one day be at he bottom of their own crap stick.

Have faith that the good customer casino owners will all be back doing business in The USA and other countries that are scrupulous and fair. The current evolution of SCUM bankers and casino owners will come full circle and we all will have a good time once again. After all the good always win over evil. Allways.  

Regards from Long time gambler eternal life

PS here is onemore quick note. Check with yourcasino records of transactions or in other words check those that have closed your account for,

Charge backs you did not initiate.

Double dippings.

You will find out real quick how much the scum bankers and casino owners have in common.

Thanks

Well this list will never end and will continue to add more. Almost every month their is a new casino starting to go online. Some of they are using pirated softwares which the software providers are hunting down. Most of those casino also offer an unbelivable bonus which can attract potential victims.

Oh my, that really sucks. Golden Lion recently did me like that, but I hadn't won anything. I was making weekly deposits, and all of a sudden they're going to say they need to do a verification even though I hadn't won anything. Well, after I sent in my docs they send me back this long list of things I need to send them, when every other casino I've sent my docs to has verified me. I just looked at my history. I've given them 19 deposits since June 2016 totally 595. Thats 595 that'll I'll just have to eat. Its funny how they don't have problems taking your money, but then want to verify you months later.

Anyway, I've found other casinos that pay so I'm okay. 

I agree with Zuga, I wanna know what you mean. I just started playing at Red Stag, I've been depositing weekly, sometimes daily, whats up with them? I found the games super cold, but I've won with WGS slots before so I'm not really phased by it. Have you won anything with them?

I haven't been on in a while but thanks for the posts!  Has anyone had any issues with Desert Nights Rival Online casino?  I have deposited many times there and have NEVER even broke even.   I am no longer going to deposit there - I find the payout percentages AWFUL. 

Oh... KUDOS for sure!  

I've has big wins at Planet 7. I won a random jackpot of $32500USD plus about another $10K and got paid no problem. They have great bonuses, but pay out slower, well they only pay up to $2500USD per week, but they pay. Also had about a $20K win at Captain Jack and got paid no worries as well. Not a problem with either at all. 

after a bad experience i would add slotocash to that list, even if i was good playing with them, then Pamper... i haven't seen it... bvut the worst one is slotsgarden... they scammed a lot of money 

THANK YOU!!!!  THAT INFO IS NEEDED AND APPRECIATED! 

I'm glad to see you among us. I see that you trust.)

I love the tournaments at INetBet, but starting a few days ago they seem to be all but gone. Has anybody else noticed this and do you know why this has happened?

Betcoin.TM (A hong kong based casino group).  The last time I visited their site in 2016, they still had it appearing to function, however, once a deposit was shown in your available balance, any game played would give an error and still deduct the bet per spin.  There have been countless followups and investigations on this casino on some other forums determining they are a scam.  Betcoin.TM is is definately one to avoid.

I cashed out at Red Stag 2 times.  $1,200  the other over $2K and both were paid less than 5 days.   I have never received payment, that fast from any site. 

I play Red Stag every week.  I love their support people, there pretty cool.

There is one thing about them that I do not like.........They give out free spins to depositing member if they do it's 5 spins 10 spins a few time I did not get anything off those spins, oh and you have to ask for it. They just don't give Bonus Buck/Free spins to a current loyal member through email or Postal Mail willingly.  You have to contact support and see if they have anything.

They just need to show a little Love to loyal depositing players just to say thanks, here's $25 bonus bucks....... thanks for playing here!

A litttle confused.  Are the casinos listed all "rogues"?  Or just the few listed at the bottom?

I find this interesting.  I hope people take note.  It's easy to slam a casino without evidence.  I know a few casinos that were slammed that I had a great experiences with.  How come we don't hear more about the good places?  And when casinos are slammed, what have they actually done that earns them the thumbs down?  It would be great to get actual intel that was reliable and useful.

Hi Dirk,

I've had some issues with a few of the casinos you mention having to do with really slow pay out.  To me, pay out is everything. Is that what you are reporting on too?

Good question.  Love to know the answer.  I would also love to know how casinos are judged.  What makes a casino good or bad in your ratings? I'm not being critical.  I am just curious how the casinos get one rank or another so that I can understand what the various recommendations actually mean.

Thank you!

i guess the main reason will be that the casino is not paying their customers when they are withdrawing their winnings. And probably more like they wont answer your messages to them.

Hey, guys,

All of you must avoid the following casinos. They are owned or related by the rogue casinos which were closed around two years ago, when the owner and management were arrested for the hacking incidents.

- BoVegas Casino

- Eclipse Casino

- Golden Lion Casino

- Supernova Casino

Good Luck.

ill add sunmaker if you are a non-german player. they reward german players on daily bases and it sucks big time when you are a non-german depositor. seeing them getting all those goodies day after day! and when you ask them they actually give you attitude. shock!!

maybe im a small person and this is not a proper place for this? but non-germans beware!! 

Someone should mention parklaneecasino com as well, their T&C are so insane, and they will just cancel your winnings and will smile arogantly in live chat

This thread is not necessary about rogue casino's ... Its more when people have a bad experience they can shout it here so we are warned ...(message for lorgamcr)

Furthermore I have no casino to add on this list ... seems the ones I play with are nice to me :)

Actually it was intended as both - but definitely with the goal to get a list of Rogue and other below par Casino's.

Nowadays LCB is very active on this front, and has it's own database on Rogue's, Casino's with warnings and more..
So in a way this thread has become obsolete, but it can still be used for either of the above:)

I know the LCB staff reads all the posts on the forum, and all the input from each and every member is taken in: which leads to investigations of claims against a Casino, or other actions of similar nature - but always influences the rating a casino gets here.

Great system - and i hope this thread contributed to it's coming into existence :p

I'd like to think i helped in my own little way!

Of course i have neglected this thread for the longest time, and was surprised to see people keep using it from time to time! 

I think that this thread for sure contributed!!

You did some awesome work here; thats for sure !!!

Well, if you are under the impression that the list was posted without any evidence, you're wrong: sure i did not have anything that would have held up in court, but i have extensively researched all the Casino's on the list, and used player feedback out of my own circles, and various forum and affiliate sites, back then.

Also, LCB now have had the 'player feedback system' in place for quite some time, and that is exactly what is used to rate all Casino's - good or bad. If you add 1+1 you can see how a Casino's rating rises or drops, depending on how well they perform overall:  this is a dividation that consists of feedback from tons of players, LCB's own research behind the scenes, and cooperation with other watchdog and affiliate sites.

You can't get any more accurate or useful info than that my friend! :)

Yes, pay-outs are one of the most important factors i considered - after all, it's easy to pretend to be a great Casino -until it comes to pay-outs. Hence there is where most Rogue's come to light -and they always do, because luckily there are always players that don't take that sitting down. 

A Rogue usually means either no or slow/stalling payment (the latter ofc being much 'better' then the former, but both are unnaceptable) cheating software or fake setups to gain acces to data (userdata, payment data, access to passwords and whatnot)  

Casino's where pay-outs are granted, but only after using various amounts of stalling tactics, aren't necessarily Rogue, but do need a warning, as it's unethical, praying on weaknesses of their players. Nevertheless it's not uncommon, some cases worse than others:)

The current Casino rating system is perfect though: so time to leave this thread, and check the 'All Casinos' section - use the filters there, and you'll soon find all the best casino's: if your extra careful, you can google them as well, just to get more intel, but i assure you this works well. Also good to take along, is going for Casino's that have been around for a few years: if the rating is high, and player feedback consistently positive, the years definitely add extra weight to that score!

For me, there are some clues that will allow you to recognize the real virtual establishments on which one can play in trust : Government certificate of authorization, support for customers 24/7 and 7/7 days and they have a label (eCogra, IGC, Gambling commission, etc...) indicated at the bottom of the page.

Hello. Please inform me about the fraud from the casino "la fiesta". Having played a no deposit bonus (only 50 euros), they asked me to make a deposit of 20 euros according to the "standard". Brought without questions. tk did not find they have negative reviews on the network. Chatted in chat. that there will be no problems. But after the withdrawal I was required to have documents: 1. Passport, 2. Both sides of the card, 3. Verification of the address, 4. Fill in their form with a signature. All three paragraphs from the 2nd to the 4th they accepted. and my Ukrainian passport was declared invalid. I'm shocked and do not want to refund the deposit. I ask you to advise how to proceed further. but it is better to put them on the blacklist, so that no one else gets caught on this scam.
Thankful in advance for the answer

add the

Winner million casino to this list

the faked net ent games casino

i send msg to Gambling Commission of Curaçao  about the license of lincoln casino online this is what they answer 

Thank you for contacting Curaçao eGaming.

Curaçao eGaming has no connection with that site and therefore

any references made to Curaçao eGaming as one of the Master License holders

are false and misleading.

Regards,

Curaçao eGaming 

I play on  PLAY7777 EN BLUELIONS I do not have problems.I have always received the money. there are so many bonuses up to 200% plus 5 euros gratis.try these online casinos

What do you think of this Cherry Jackpot casino: Does someone won the jakpot there?

List of casinos to avoid? Haha, this list should be very long, starting with RTG powered casinos followed by Rival powered casinos, those are the most notorious casinos, don't forget other casinos with unknown games providers.

I was at ZENDESK checking out my most recent "hey we sent u a message, but u nvr responded (to an unsent/unrecieved message!) so we are now closing it." and realised I had been dealing with this for 5 months and had to share this chat history between us to help you decide not to be scammed... 

Chat started: 2018-01-29 11:37 PM UTC

(11:37:14 PM) Shannon Goddard: i need help redeeming my player appreciation chip

(11:37:26 PM) Casino Support Center: Welcome to Customer Support. While we take a moment to assign the best agent to assist your needs, can you provide your username and phone number so we can locate your account? 
(11:38:28 PM) Shannon Goddard: not sure 
(11:39:36 PM) Shannon Goddard: been a while since i started my account] 
(11:42:23 PM) Shannon Goddard: hi 
(11:49:20 PM) *** David Moore joined the chat *** 
(11:49:34 PM) David Moore: To receive an Appreciation Gift your last transaction must be a deposit. 
(11:49:44 PM) Shannon Goddard: mine was 
(11:50:31 PM) Shannon Goddard: the thing said to use one of the coders below then i get a $100 chip 
(11:50:50 PM) David Moore: You get $50. 
(11:50:55 PM) David Moore: They have been applied to your account. 
(11:50:59 PM) Shannon Goddard: ahhhh i see ok 
(11:51:04 PM) Shannon Goddard: ty 
(11:51:33 PM) David Moore: Here are the rules in case of needed:

$50 FREE CHIP 
All Allowed Games 
30X Wagering Requirement 
(60X for Table Games and Video Poker) 
$100 Max Cash-Out 
Redeem: APPRECIATION 
No Deposit Required 
(11:51:37 PM) David Moore: Is there anything else that I may help you with? 
(11:54:46 PM) David Moore: Thank you for visiting Planet 7 Casino. Feel free to contact us at any time for further assistance! 
(11:54:48 PM) *** David Moore left the chat ***
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Requester
 Shannon Goddard
Created
 January 29, 2018 16:49

AFTER I WON 

Chat started: 2018-02-09 07:47 PM UTC

(07:47:44 PM) Shannon Goddard: hi, i'm looking for the place to see what my address is and other such info 
I also wish to know what all must be done to cash out??

(07:47:56 PM) Casino Support Center: Welcome to Customer Support. While we take a moment to assign the best agent to assist your needs, can you provide your username and phone number so we can locate your account? 
(07:48:41 PM) Shannon Goddard: sgod1986 and idk which # i had when i signed up 
(07:56:30 PM) *** Sean Foster joined the chat *** 
(07:56:35 PM) Sean Foster: Hello, welcome to casino customer support. My name is Sean Foster and I will be assisting you today. 
(07:56:36 PM) Sean Foster: For verification purposes, may I please have your user name and phone number please? 
(07:56:45 PM) Sean Foster: No worries. 
(07:56:52 PM) Sean Foster: IMPORTANT: Please do not attempt to send us your documents via chat or to our support email, as they will not reach the concerned department.

We kindly request that you send your documents to: [email protected] and label your email with the name of the casino, and your casino username (login). 
(07:56:53 PM) Shannon Goddard: pk 
(07:57:38 PM) Shannon Goddard: but what documents? 
(07:58:45 PM) Sean Foster: Please allow me a moment to have a look at your account. 
(07:58:52 PM) Shannon Goddard: ok 
(07:59:20 PM) Sean Foster: For verification purposes, the casino requires all players to send: 
-Copy of an Identification (Driver's License or Passport) 
-Utility bill (Showing your name and address) 
-Signed Account Verification Form: 
http://www.planet7casino.com/p7c-account-verification.html 
(08:00:22 PM) Shannon Goddard: ok 
(08:00:30 PM) Sean Foster: Is there anything else I can help you with today? 
(08:00:39 PM) Shannon Goddard: nah 
(08:00:54 PM) Sean Foster: Thanks for contacting Planet 7 Casino. We wish you the best of luck! Come back anytime. We are here for you 24/7. 
(08:00:56 PM) *** Sean Foster left the chat ***

Shannon Goddard4 months ago
(08:00:57 PM) Shannon Goddard: take care
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Requester
 Shannon Goddard
Created
 February 09, 2018 12:56
Last activity
 February 09, 2018 15:10
Assigned to
 Rick Deckard 
Id
 #701806

NOW MANY CONTACTS LATER AND 5 MONTHS TOTAL LATER 

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Shannon Goddard
2 months ago
Username sgod1986

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Shannon Goddard
2 months ago
Ok

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CS_CR - Laura Cordoba
2 months ago
Dear Shannon,

Thank you for contacting us.
Thank you as well for taking the time for sending the documents in order to certificate your account.
We are still missing the following documents:

• Utility Bill gas, water phone or electricity bill (Showing your name and address) not older than 2 months)
Unfortunately we are not accepting bank statement as Utility

Thank you for choosing our services, please do not hesitate to contact us if you require any further assistance.

Kind regards,

Laura

Regards,

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Shannon Goddard
2 months ago
oh ok no problem, here you go.
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CS_CR - Laura Cordoba
1 month ago
Dear Shannon,

Thank you for contacting us.
Thank you as well for taking the time for sending the documents in order to certificate your account.

We received your Utility bill but we need to know your current address.
We do have a different address in your account
2044 e palm lane
Phoenix, AZ 85006

Please let us know which is the correct one to update your information

Thank you for choosing our services, please do not hesitate to contact us if you require any further assistance.

Kind regards,

Laura

Regards,

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Shannon Goddard
1 month ago
my current address is 6513 n 24th ave sorry, i must not have remembered to update my address when i moved

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Shannon Goddard
1 month ago
also i have reinstated my withdrawal request for bitcoin, i want it sent to me to [email protected] if you use coinbase or freewallet (its fee free) or 3NWVZ7V1vXw1P4mpG3n4mTvRabNeiJytet for any other services used.

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Shannon Goddard
1 month ago
hello I would like a reply

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Shannon Goddard
1 month ago
I am confirming that my address is currently 6513 n 24th ave phoenix az 85015

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Shannon Goddard
1 month ago
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From: CS_CR - Laura Cordoba (Planet 7 Documents) <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 9:25 AM
Subject: Documents for planet7
To: Shannon Goddard <[email protected]>

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Shannon Goddard
1 month ago
ok.................

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CS_CR - Laura Cordoba
1 month ago
Dear Shannon,

Thank you for contacting us.
Thank you as well for taking the time for sending the documents in order to certificate your account.
We have changed your address but
We are still missing the following documents:

For Bitcoin requirements:
2 valid ID's and a picture of you holding them both + current copy of local newspaper.

Thank you for choosing our services, please do not hesitate to contact us if you require any further assistance.

Kind regards,

Laura

Regards,

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Shannon Goddard
1 month ago
send me an example of how one might do this. I have no clue how I would even hold all that stuff much less do so and take pictures. I would be willing to do this on live chat instead

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Shannon Goddard
23 days ago
I have changed my request to cashout by mailed check! I KNOW you have received and approved all of the necessary paperwork for this form of cash out so lets just do that since I cant get a reply about my offer to show you all of the things you wanted on live chat, a very generous offer being as how it is all unfair of you to act this way towards me.

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Shannon Goddard
20 days ago
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From: Shannon Goddard <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 02:48:48 +0000
Subject: Re: Documents for planet7
To: Planet 7 Documents <[email protected]>

send me an example of how one might do this. I have no clue how I would
even hold all that stuff much less do so and take pictures. I would be
willing to do this on live chat instead

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 11:59 AM CS_CR - Laura Cordoba (Planet 7 Documents) <
[email protected]> wrote:

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CS_CR - Laura Cordoba
19 days ago
Dear Shannon,

Thank you for contacting us.
Thank you as well for taking the time for sending the documents in order to certificate your account.
We have changed your address, but we are still missing the following documents:

• For your Bitcoin, We need 2 valid ID's and a picture of you holding them both.

Thank you for choosing our services, please do not hesitate to contact us if you require any further assistance.

Kind regards,

Laura

Regards. 

Sorry if it's too much for this but please if it is reassign it to where ever it belongs? I did send them a reply saying I would just take a check to my address but got nothing bk after that and it's unlisted on the zendesk. I WILL MENTION TY LCB BECAUSE ***SHOUT OUT***@BLUEDAY & MelissaN TY! ****

I DID FINALLY GET A RESPONCE FROM THEM AFTER YOUR CONTACT WITH THEM! NOT YET FAVORABLE BUT BABY STEPS EH? >=D

Hi Shannon Goddard,

Glad we could help. Please update the topic where you posted the complaint HERE. 

Thanks.

Do you have any updates for June? i know there are quite a few new Netent casinos that have recently been put out and i was wondering whether any of these were to be avoided.

Stay away from Playamo/Bobcasino they are stealing bitcoin from USA players. They fully verified my account and I live in USA and NO I don't use a proxy services that hides IP. After successfully cashing out about $1200 from a few hundred dollar deposit I continued to play eventually losing $5000. When I inquired about any bonuses I was very rudely told they don't accept USA players and they closed my account. LCB and other LCB users have agreed with me and have requested the casino to refund my deposits but they refuse to listen to LCB Mods.