SLOTSNUTS BOGUS SITE

I played on slotsnuts  ready to cash out and they refuse my request.  breach of contract they said I've nevered have played with them and they said I had 2 accts which was B.S. cuz I know I didn't.  Don't waste your money with this bogus site folks.
Wish all of u big bucks to come your way.

Welcome to the forum wetever.

They are a rogue site and carry a warning under the casino review.  So sorry you had to find out the hard way.

Check out all the casinos listed HERE and if you try to select one with a warning on them, some reputable casinos are recommended in their place.

Better luck for your future deposits.

blue

Great advice Blueday.  But unfortunately the list is far from accurate when it comes to giving warnings at rogue casinos.  There are plenty of casinos that do not have warning that are rogue.  I understand theres a lot of work that has to go into updating and identifying the rogue casino, but if LCB is going to make a list it needs to be accurate.

The list is "all casinos" not "all rogue casinos".

If you think a casino is rogue and it is not listed as such, maybe you could tell us about it.  A rogue casino is not based on one misdemeanour but things going wrong time and again.

Care to enlighten?

You said there are warnings on the rogue casinos.  I am saying that the list is far from accurate in terms of giving warnings.  Am I wrong?  Have you looked at the list lately?  Would you go deposit your money at some of the casinos that do not have "warnings"?  Do I really have to list the individual casinos that are known rogue in the online world that do not have warnings?

LCB certainly does not have an obligation to list warning and rogue sites.  If LCB wants to list all casinos for the purpose of an affiliate link then so be it.  All I am saying is if LCB is going to list "warnings" then the list needs to be accurate, because if not I may rely on LCB warnings and end up clicking on the wrong one.

They don't care. You better believe they get revenues from Rogue casinos as well.

That's a pretty harsh and sweeping statement chocolateman. 

We don't like to see our members being stitched up whether they signed up through LCB or not - we don't stop to ask if a player signed up through LCB - we just go ahead and try to help.

gosh chocolateman you are such a troll.  LCB has a warning list for all rogue casinos and warnings placed in their reviews and at forum.

they also have support board and representatives and they personally get involved in helping members. But if members do not heed the warnings and still choose to play at these casinos then it is their problem.

to say that LCB don't care is BS statement and you know it.

Your first sentence saying there are warning's is where my comments started.  My point is the list is not accurate in terms of warnings.  There are lots of known rogues that are in the list that do not have warnings.  Take for example 21dukes,  a known rogue topgame operator.  There is no warning listed.

I have seen LCB help on issues.  The staff definitely get's involved to help in resolving problems.  At the same time I believe they almost have an obligation to help with the way the list and links are set up.  What I mean by that is, the list of casinos have lots of evil operators, and at the same time even if there is a warning LCB still has an affiliate link.  If there is a warning/known rogue they probably shouldn't allow someone to be directed to the site and should probably not be an aff.  For example if I wasn't that sharp, and didn't see the warning on Captain Jacks, I could click on it, join with LCB as an affiliate, possibly win and not get paid.  If I came back here to say please help, the response is probably, "there is a warning listed", my response would be "why would you have a link then?"

I do sometimes enjoy reading post's and posting here.  But I also do understand that Rogues are welcome here.  Rogues have been shut out by lots of site, but have somewhat of a shelter here.  I have known what to expect since day 1 of being a member here. Ultimately LCB is an affiliate with a forum for discussion.

I can only find one fairly recent thread about 21Dukes.  There has to be more than one complaint before Zuga will consider making a casino rogue.  If a casino was made rogue with just one complaint, there wouldn't be many casinos left to play at!

The list is accurate insofaras this forum is concerned.  Player complaints are taken seriously and if the same casino keeps popping up with complaints, Zuga will make a timely and fair decision and place a warning on the casino. 

Yes there are affiliate links but this is a business at the end of the day.  You will also see that some of the warnings are about affiliates also not being paid but you will still see an affiliate link!

Thanks for the info Blue , now I understand.  When I was talking about rogue casinos being on your list, I was saying it based upon casinos being known rogues in the online casino world.  I understand now that LCB bases it upon their own experience.  Yes indeed you cant make a casino rogue based upon one complaint.  So just to FYI the list does have some known rogues on the list.

Yes indeed LCB is a business and can list whatever they want. But at the same time selling an inferior product or in this case allowing evil casinos to be advertised and linked can be a reflection on the business and owners.  I for one would never allow my customers to be exposed to a problem casino, but that just me.

Hey guys,

LCB is a casino and bonus directory. We list all casinos and all bonuses making it an extensive library of various information gambling related.

Warnings are posted at reviews, forum, bonus lists and casino warning page. If players choose to neglect the warnings then it is their prerogative. And if there is a problem then we take upon us to assist and resolve such issues. Failure to resolve a complaint would lead to further blocking such casino.

Hence some of the casinos that have warnings have active links, and that's in case when they do pay, but with a delay and they do resolve complaints. Those that never pay have, aside from the warnings, pop up blocker too ( when you click on the link/banner ). Given this topic's subject SlotsNuts Warning is an example of a casino having such blocker.

Just because some casino is blacklisted elsewhere doesn't mean they should be blacklisted on LCB. We rely on our members feedback and complaint(s) posted on our site and/or received through email.
Then and only then we decide, given such feedback, unresolved complaints and so on, if a casino deserves to be placed on our own warning list, or removed from the list for that matter.

Now one may ask how can that be sufficient or relevant. Given that LCB has one of the biggest forums and given the sheer volume of our traffic , it is more than relevant to make such decisions given the feedback we receive. Also it s relevant because we have the power to influence casinos and make them do the right thing.

Also each review has a star rating and every member can rate at their own discretion. And that is also relevant as it shows new visitors what they can expect from xyw casino. Also each review has a comment area where feedback can be left , giving visitors a full insight on that casino.

In over 6 years that LCB has been around we have helped thousands of players to get paid, which probably equals in hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many of those players were never our visitors before but found us through search engines looking for reviews. And this is why LCB is instrumental as being a relevant source.

This is why I believe we have a fair model that give more than enough info to players to decide where to play, but also gives a chance to casinos to compete against other casinos, improve their service and gives them a chance to fix their act if they want warning removed.

hope this clarifies
Zuga

@BMWSTACK now you know why Bryan runs the most respected gambling forum on the net.

I think I've tried all the online casinos at least once and based on my experiences the list at LCB is nearly 100% accurate. There might be one or two casinos I would like to see have warnings that do not, but just because I had a problem at those casinos that does not mean other people have or will. For example, I had a problem at one of the "best" online RTG casinos. Very few people have had a problem with them but I did. Does that make them rogue? No. Are they listed as rogue at any casino blog/forum? No. Because most people have not had any problem with them.

Also, the list at LCB is updated regularly based on what I have seen unlike most other forums. Were it not for LCB, I would not know about Cleo's VIP room - the coolest new casino for players in the USA. I still do not see that casino listed at any other forums. Apparently only LCB is aware they exist.

And one thing I know for sure is when I had a problem recently with a casino and turned to LCB, they helped me all the way. Without having a place like this to post a complaint for not only casino managers to see but the public as well, and the support of Zuga and everyone else at LCB, what chance would any of us have at getting an issue resolved with an online casino? Were it not for LCB the issue would probably still be unresolved. I know there are other forums out there, but LCB is the only one who was willing to help me without making me jump through hoops and follow guidelines that are almost as strict as the rogue casinos payout policies.

LCB is by far the best online casino forum in my opinion.

I find it hard to believe that you have deposited, won, and got paid successfully at all the casinos on the list.  I would not play with your money at half of the casinos on the list. This is not an assumption or an opinion, it is a fact.  I have been in the online gambling community for 10+ years.  I have studied and researched online casinos for that entire period.

The only time I sometimes see another forum not helping is because the casino is a known rogue.

Cleos VIP is a very sketchy operation and people tend to distance themselves from organizations as such, that's why you have not heard much.

You have misrepresented and/or put a spin on almost everything I said.

FYI, I live in a state with dozens of land based casinos and more coming in every year. I have been gambling at those casinos since I was 21, and have been gambling on line since approximately 1998. I am not some mindless overly wealthy fool who throws his money into every online casino with no regard to if they are rogue or not as you seem to be suggesting I am.

As for your comments, what I said was "I THINK I have TRIED all the online casinos at least once", and, "based on my experiences the list at LCB is nearly 100% accurate".

But what you claim I said was that I "have deposited, won, and got paid successfully at all the casinos on the list".

Did you even read my comments?

Again, FYI, when I said I think I have TRIED all of the online casinos, that's exactly what I meant. I TRIED them. Many of them I TRIED with the FREE no deposit bonus. I am not sure how many I have actually deposited at, but it is certainly not all of them. And as for how many I have withdrawn from, I am not sure. But again, it is not all of them and I never once suggested it was.

As for my assertion the list at LCB is nearly 100% accurate based on my experiences, I stand by that statement 100%. Some of the casinos I have TRIED with FREE no deposit money are casinos that were not even on the LCB list when I tried them. As a result I never deposited at those casinos because I had no idea if they were honest. And once they made it to the LCB list, they instantly had a warning (at least they did when I first seen them on the list) and thus I knew not to deposit at those casinos. And ironically one of those casinos I tried for free but never deposited at because they were not on the list at that time was "Slot Nuts".

As for your comment that the only time you "sometimes see another forum not helping is because the casino is a known rogue", again you misrepresented what I said.

I did not say or even suggest no other forums would help me. What I said was when I turned to another forum for help (at the same time I came to LCB for help), the guy on the other forum wanted me to jump through hoops and follow guidelines that are almost as strict as the rogue casinos payout policies JUST in order to START helping me!!! In the week or so it took me to get my money after I complained, LCB had been in contact with the casino NUMEROUS times. The guy on the other forum contacted them ONCE and it was DAYS after LCB got involved, and he got NO WHERE. Again, if it weren't for LCB I might not have ever got the money. And if I were counting on the other forums guy to help, I might still be waiting!

And as for your comments on Cleo's, I'm not sure what your assumptions are based on, but if it's based on things you have read, and you read those things with the same accuracy you read my comments, then I will take your opinion with a grain of salt. My comments and views on Cleo's are based on my own personal experiences with Cleo's versus other online casinos, and the experiences of people I know personally who have also tried Cleo's. I have deposited at Cleo's several times and did one withdraw that went very smoothly. I could have done more withdraws but sometimes I enjoy continuing to play and chasing after that big hit more than cashing out two or three hundred dollars.

I have also received a couple very nice watches and other items with my VS credits that I have earned by making purchases at Cleos (which is a MUCH better rewards system than the $1 or $2 in "comp points" I would have got elsewhere), and I even got a FREE $55 no deposit bonus with no max cash out from Cleo's just for asking live chat! And not to mention the fact that on all but maybe ONE SMALL deposit I have made at Cleo's, I ended up playing for hours upon hours if not DAYS upon DAYS from that one deposit.

So, as I said I will take your comments about Cleo's with a grain of salt until I hear otherwise.

Good day.

Hi Avitas i wouldnt be stressing here. Im yet to see BMWSTACK say something positive about anything. Same goes for chocolateman , some folks are just like that and i accept it as being part of open forum community is all about sharing your own views without fear of being censored.

And LCB offers that and much more.

Thanks nirvana. BMWSTACK's reply to my comments reminded me of something an opponent would say if I were running for some type of public office. He took everything I said, put a spin on it, then used it against me as if I am some kind of mindless fool when it comes to online casinos. So I felt a need to respond to set the record straight on what I said

I have not misinterpreted anything.  You said the list is nearly 100% accurate.  The only way you can make that claim is because you have cashed out at "nearly 100%" of the casinos.  Any casino will let you make a deposit or take a free chip.  Its the cashout process that makes the casino rogue.  So I will rephrase it with I highly doubt you have cashed out at nearly 100% of the casinos.  As I said I wouldn't play at half of them with your money.

As Nirvana has said this is a place to voice your opinion.  My post actually has a message to help other players, and that is be careful!!!  Believe it or not I really do like to help others.  Last thing I want is to see someone to be taken advantage of. I do see a lot of uneducated (in terms of online casinos) people and I have no problem steering them in the right direction.  I want to help!!!

Cleos represents themselves as a legal casino for the US, by calling it a promotion.  They require your ss# when cashing out.  I have heard of people getting paid, and have heard of delays.  IMO anyone that respresents them as something they are not, (legal casino) that could be a sign of them doing whatever it takes to make money, which essentially could become a problem, ie..selling information including ss# bank information , disappearing, what happens to the promotion money when it runs out.  They are basically challenging DOJ with their representation of Legal casino and I believe it could come crashing down at any time.  So again I do see people getting paid, but there are also concerns.  If you feel comfortable gambling there then so be it.

I myself put a lot of time and effort into research before getting into the online industry.  Now of course everyone should do research, but some don't have time and may be too trusting.  I for one would like to have someone like myself that is down to earth, cautious, and real to be able to get information from when trying to make a proper decision.  Not patting myself on the back, but I always respect the people that have real down to earth information.  It doesn't sound like Nirvana likes my tone or posts, but I always thought I am being positive with the information I provide.  If I am bursting peoples bubbles and have them think about reality for a minute then I guess I am accomplishing what my posts are intended for . 

Nirvana even though you think im negative, when really trying to be positive, I will go find something to post that is awesomely super.  Just look for my next post.

That's not only rude, but incredibly tacky. It's poor form to drag one forum into another to draw comparisons - especially to exalt the other. If you prefer someone's else's business model, you should go use theirs, not insult your host. Membership here isn't compulsory. If you aren't happy with the services provided there's a virtual door over there.

I'm not going to argue with someone who thinks they know it all. I get the feeling your real problem is you have lost more than you can afford at online casinos and now your mad and taking it out on everyone else.

As for your question of what happens when Cleo's promotion money runs out, if you are talking about the ten million dollars their website says must be given away, I think it will be a long time before they run out of ten million dollars. You do know how casinos work, right?

Avitas, I responded to your post saying I put word in your mouth. My next post is just asking you to accurate in your statements of vouching for nearly 100% of the list. Its not so much knowing everything, but I have just called for validation of your statement.  I am obviously correct in calling you out on the statement, because all you can do is go to the extent of being rude and more so becoming very personal saying I've lost money and mad.  Your free to post your opinion, just like me, but that comment is certainly trolling.

In terms of your comments of Cleos , again I posted a clear list of concern, but rather than say something intelligent you say , "you do know how casinos work?" 

As I said before my posts have good information, and hopefully it helps at least one person to be cautious and do research before they play. If you cant post intelligently or do like my posts then don't read them or reply.

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