Why this is a better forum than another well known forum Casinomeister.com

Has anyone else decided that there are better forums, such as this one, to get help and information than another well known forum?

I was a member at this other forum for over 5 years but the last two years it has become impossible to hold a civil conversation or post a thread that asks for help or attempts to provide helpful information for other members.  Why? because there are a handful of members that seem to just want to betlittle and accuse other members of unfounded things. Their motive isn't to help but rather to attack other members.

Have any of you experienced this?, or have you left this other well known forum due to this?

Please post your thoughts.

I've not experienced the other forum because I've never had the desire to sign up there; I guess that truly speaks volumes about LCB.  LCB is by far the best gambling forum on the net.

blue

Hi footdr,

thanx for the kind words about LCB.

I cannot be the judge of other sites/forums , or in this case CM. But I reckon every site is different and we at LCB are proud to have something unique and have I would say a feeling of family and comradery on here.

We always had a firm policy against bashing and attacking on a personal level and I guess this is why you won't  see much drama on here. And Im very pleased that most of our members are respectful to each other.

cheers
Zuga

footdr,I cannot give any feedback about the other forum because LCB was the first one I went to and had no need or desire to go elsewhere.:)

I joined LCB on April 4,2009 so today is my anniversary or maybe birthday;)

This forum is the best and here I will stay!!
  Thank you LCB....you ROCK!!

Many years ago, i been to other forums, never signed up at any just grab codes and ran lol.. and i do recallbackthen how disrespectful, childish and angry other members were, one thing that stuck me was it was allowed there was no moderation, the ugliness just made me uncomfortable, curse words, belittles, unappreciated and uncivil.. i'd say "let me check the war zone for some codes".. i came here and noticed how kind, respectful and helpful everyone was signed up, never left and never went back to any of those others,it was a waste of my time.. since ive been here ive had nothing but a smile on my face, theres always goodies to enjoy, friendly, knowledgeable, helpful and professionalized staff, always on top of things.. and absolutely wonderful members..

LCB is the place to be, forget the rest you got the best!

there is no comparison, LCB is the best forum, and always will be full stop

:)

keep up the great work LCB

gl all

LuckyRJ

          I second that,  LCB is arguably the most well designed (graphically), organized (navigation wise), operated, and moderated.  When things  on occasion do get heated, they are promptly dealt with appropriately.  I, too have not had the desire to go to any other forum.  I consider many of my fellow LCB'ers to be friends that I can share experiences with because I don't generally discuss these matters very much at all outside of the forum.    I'm  very grateful  and glad to be a part of this.

I've been around this online gambling biz for 12-13 yrs now, and have gone thru many other boards.  I cannot stomach the crap that goes on, on those boards, and CM is one of the pioneers of that crap.  I believe he built his biz by creating drama and setting himself up as the hero.  Just makes me sick.  :-&

PS - I love it here, and it's exactly because of the respect and decency of this board.  Thank you, because I know how hard it can be to maintain a positive atmosphere.

I stumbled into CM a couple of times while looking for an answer to site download issues I had and the thing that hit me first and foremost was the way the members spoke to each other... very nasty, it was shocking.

The other thing was the difficulty of finding anything when I got there although the question I was asking had come up in my search engine and took me to their site... no help at all...

Don't have any desire to go back... I am LCB all the way! Forum members, mods, admin, layout, you name it, LCB has it hands down, and this is family!

katt

I wouldnt want to post now about CM specificaly but rather about online forums in general, because i somehow feel they all suffer the same problem. They all  have their core community and everyone else are mostly some kind of noobs, outsiders, intruders or i dont know what word to use here to describe the feeling. I always felt somehow discouradged to post anything, never wanted to ask a question just to hear a non helpfull and popmpous tone in a reply (not to mention making a comment or stating a different oppinion).

On the other hand I never seen or experienced such attitude from anyone here at LCB since i joined and community here is friendlier and more helpfull than anywhere. As Zuga mentioned it, its really something  unique to see, makes me really happy to be part of it.

I agree with all the sentiments mentioned above.

I suffered a great loss on Christmas Day and the words of comfort helped more than anyone could know.  That sums up the LCB community for me..... and nothing could be more important than lending a shoulder or kind word when one really needs it.

PS:  Happy Anniversary Rose!  ( And a special big fat thank you for being there above and beyond... and Katt too, when I needed it!)

I pop in to another forum, if you can call it that, just to see codes (which I share here if I find any).  The name calling, bitching, griping, whining are awful.

I did make a quick post there today saying.... the nonsense has made me stop posting new codes, don't want to share with a bunch of ungrateful whiners.

I have never looked at the forum listed above.  Just took a peek and it is not easliy navigated.  Anyway... they have a yearly list of most annoying member. Yikes.

Thank you Gabby,it's hard to believe I've been a member for 3 years already.Time flies when you are having fun!

As far as thanking me...not necessary...that's what friends are for,to be there when you need us!! 

I'm with Rosebud Gabby! No need for thanks, just part of being a family and caring... I do know how it felt though... when I was in fear for my son's health and life and could not go to him, I came here to share instead and the caring and support was wonderful... it pulled me through that dark time.


katt

Well, let's see. When I had the heart attack, when I was forced to live out of my car and the kind and gentle responses that resulted made me believe that this place in unmatched in caring about the members who come here, is why I stay a member of LCB.

genenco,I'm so glad things are better for you now.

I absolutely agree with you guys. I was a member of many sports forums and there was always a lot of hate. I noticed that there was usually an alpha male or female and everyone would blindly follow their lead and it was extremely irritating. It was impossible to speak your mind; of course you could, but you would be, most often, ignored.

Haha Mark, you really made me laugh with that alpha allegory, extremely well describes certain relations there, couldnt agree more

Well a member of Casinomeister read this thread and low and behold approx. 4 hours after I read his post that misquoted what I have posted here, I have been officially banned from Casinomeister.com and it says I will NEVER be allowed back there again. No reason, no chance to reply to reason or anything and have been a member there for approx. 5 years.

Not a great loss as it didn't offer much to assist U.S. players and most of the time I found myself defending my comments. I received many pm's for the members asking me for information and help because they were tired of being attacked when they posted in threads.

I can only wonder why decent people remain members when so many are allowed to call others liars, belittle them and attack every post they make.  As far as Nifty goes, he is a jerk that continually followed every comment I posted and never had anything but good to say. I put him on my "ignore" list but found he was still quoting and twisting everything I had  to say.

Good Riddons to CM and his pet members.

I wondered if that might happen to you.  Sounds like they can't handle a bit of truth telling.

blue

Whoa, not sure what happened to my response to Gabby. Long story short the minute a CM member posted that I have started this thread and misquoted me by the way.
I was banned forever after I responded to him that he misquoted me and that if I planned to leave the forum for good I would post a farewell.

Geez, didn't even get to do that after being a member there for years.

Guess that is how longstanding members are treated when the "pets" want to get rid of you.

As I said, no loss and my health will be better because my blood pressure won't constantly be going up each time I am called a liar, selfish, promoting rouged casinos(which I never did, only posted my experience at a few that I played at and all comments were entirely truthful) and in the past couple of days I say them thank other members comments when they said the exact same thing I had said and I was attacked, not thanked.

Anyway, the only thing that upsets me is that I don't have a chance to pm my friends to tell them where and how they can reach me.

footdr..

i'm sorry to read you got banned, i know you must be feeling badly and missing your friends..it will be okay.. but a forum like that you'd be not surprise, when most of the comments are about persons and members  not being heard correctly or able to post their complaints or grievances..

on this forum i noticed if you have problems with staff whether good or bad (i've never once saw a single legitimate complaint of any being rude or disrespectful) or problems with other members, you are allowed to post your opinion but without bashing, being an open forum we are all allowed to post our opinions sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't, most are resolved if they are misunderstandings with an apology, so simple to do, thousands of people on the forum there are bound to be disagreements, misjudements,say things they don't really mean to say,sometimesit'sjust not known or seen until someone else points it out.. but the main thing is you are heard... if it gets heated and continues then it's the warning, even then i've seen leiniency as it's known members are important, given a few moments to gather yourself to realize mistakes or a mishap of thoughts and type, but Zuga and staff will not put up with any nastiness, that gets cleaned up real quick.. nevertheless we as a family all get together to help or correct whatever problem there might be

CM used to be a decent site. B was a fair man. That allowed its members to be members. Dunno what happened but he started acting funny. He would show so much bias towards certain casinos. For an example: Members would have to pressure him to ban a member of the MG casino family. Because he felt MG couldn't do no wrong. But if it was Rival he would ban the entire group. Also if any US players says anything wrong about Inetbet, CWC or 3dice. He or maxd will quickly jump to their defense. Including banning members and closing threads. They even made a slot machine in B honor. How can someone be fair to the players? But accepts a slot machine in his name and lunches and vacation meetings? Once the gambling guru left his forum. I know then it was over

footdr, i'm glad to hear you feel that way, maybe you will be happier here and like i said.. it'll be okay.

Blueday removed the link! Here is his the post by Bryan Bailey about most of the aliases:

If by spe

I asked chocolateman if he was the man behind all those aliases, mostly because that behaviour indicates some "problems". I still don't know if Chocolateman is the same person as the one who created all those aliases at CM.

Sigh.........i had a big long ole post that got lost during the upgrading but let me take a stab at it again.............

I do agree that there is definitely a different group of members here at LCB. Sometimes i am amazed at how well everyone really gets along considering it is a public forum. I have always felt LCB had a certain charm.

The last thing people want to do is go to a forum where there is bickering and bashing one another. After awhile that gets pretty old. Sometimes threads do get heated but at the end of the day no one ever holds a grudge and if things escalate the staff tries to calm it down.

We have an amazing group of members and LCB is surely blessed.

Lips

And footdr we sure will try not to make your blood pressure go up here!

          It must be all those cute pictures.

What I posted regarding Slots of Vegas:

Well I decided to take the bonus and try this casino. I have had the best support experience compared to acceditated casinos I normally pay. My documents were approved quickly after making a 956.00 withdrawal via check. I received a call the day after withdrawal from a very helpful player manager who advised me to contact him direct if I experienced any problems. He gave me his direct extension and email. Yesterday my withdrawal was approved without incident and I was advised payment would be made within 7 to 10 days via overnight express fedex or ups. I had none of the problems other players mentioned back in 2008. Not even sure why they are rouged. It seems to me that many casinos get a bad rap because players fail to follow the terms and conditions. Once again, my experience at a rouged casino has been nothing but good.

After depositing at the usual casinos, CW, INETBet and not winning a thing over the past month(longest no win period for me in the past 5 years). I am glad I decided to play as 800.00 win on a 30.00 deposit is awesome.

You can't always rely on casino ratings as you may have a different experience than other players.

I need the money so I am will to make a small deposit to check a new casino out(new to me).


What they Posted"
Posted by Tirilej:

Footdr. You maybe believe that we the people who you feel are haunting you about your posting about chargebacks and playing in rogue casinos are just a few, but you are mistaken.
I know some of them agree with you, but you have no idea how many there are that feels like we do.

FYI I left LCB because they were promoting all of those rogue casinos

Posted by Nifty29"

Actually you were fooling everyone.....in fact you were deliberately misleading everyone that you only took the free chip, when in fact you deposited. Nice.

You're not an affiliate. You're just a player who doesn't give a stuff about any other player and how they have been cheated....just as long as you get your money. I have no doubt you mentioned this forum to persuade them to pay you so you might come and tell everyone how they are actually quite awesome....and you didn't let them down.

The whole thing about "I'm gonna leave" and "so are all my friends" blah blah is absolute dramatic, attention seeking hogwash. If you truly feel what you say, then just leave. It's high school stuff to go around threatening to leave.

I'll also tell you one thing....the people who have left here over the years blaming other members failed to look inwards and think about why members challenged their views and opinions in the first place. Using the "xxx is too mean" excuse is really pathetic. If your views are solid and well-formed and reasonable...then you'll never have a problem with me that's for sure. If you do have a problem with me, then the above should tell you why. If you want only certain people to post (which you continually advocate), and only want others to agree with you, then start a blog....forums are obviously not for you
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Please note that I said I deposted in the post I made shown above.
I never posted that I was leaving and so were my friends as Nifty quoted me. That was an outright lie.
Regarding "only wanting certain people to post, he is referring to my comments about members like him constantly posting on a thread for which they had nothing informative to offer, such as posting snide remarks on the thread "rushmore withdrawal delays" where members actually waiting for payment were posting their information and updates on their withdrawal. He had no withdrawal pending so he just continually replied to posts admonishing members who had deposited and played at this "rouged casino group". I never once posted that certain members should not be allowed to post on a thread and to the contrary I said anyone should be allowed to post but that it is not helpful when their post has nothing to do with the subject of the thread and is only made to verbally attack other members comments, call them names, misquote them and so on.

Just wanted to make this post to one, vindicate myself, two,  hope CM members read this  here as I can't post on CM.
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He/She mentions my posts about chargebacks.  Not once at anytime I was a member at CM did I every make any statements promoting, supporting or suggesting players initiate chargebacks. But a back and forth started between myself and a handful several members regarding the right to dispute charges where the casino failed to comply with their own terms and conditions, banking information posted on their website regarding withdrawals and where the player attempted to "work" with the casino, allowing them plenty of time to make payments.  And, especially when months pass and all the player is given is excuse after excuse or emails go unanswered.

I mearly posted that legally, a dispute is not the same as a Chargeback as only the Bank can make the decision to initiate a chargeback and only after the entity/processor that submitted the transaction is given 30-90 days(depending on the bank) to respond to the dispute and provide their explanation and/or supporting documents. At anytime during the dispute processes the processor can make good on the paying the customer/player and the dispute is dropped and the Bank will not intiate the chargback or if the bank sides with the processor after receiving their reply, there will be no chargeback.


I believe that if a casino fails to adhere to their own terms and conditions, the agreement between the player and the casino is void.
But, every remedy should be addressed and the player should only dispute after giving the casino ample time to pay them(3 months is ample time in my opinion. Especially when the player has made many many withdrawals and has been paid within the time stated on the website and the casino failed to update their website processing times or failed to indicate longer processing times when a player asks how long it will take to be paid before depositing their money.

Just my opinion. And, my comments are not meant to pursuade anyone to agree with my opinion.

Well i see that this thread is not very current , but i stumbled across it and read some interesting things..I did register with them before LCB for whatever reason, I don't know..But i'm gonna put my 2 cents in just becuz... I was attracted at first because they seemed to be on top of things that had to do with 'Who"s who" in the area of where and where not to play because i wasnt doing research  of casinos before depositing.. This was in my very early online playing.. so anyways when I joined, i did get what I thought was a good start for me as to looking more at/into where i am dep. my money.. but the emails i received that i had messages confused me. I would log in and get completely lost..Pretty much everthing was totally non U.S. based...Being from U.S., i benefitted from blacklists and rogue and so on becuz the US casinos are on those lists..In a nutshell i never go on the site becuz most of the events, the terminolgy , the bonuses, etc. had nothing to do with U.S. Website very hard for me to follow but i do know how to click on where it says U.S. Casinos and info., it consisted of nothing related to u.s. casinos that  for me i hadnt already learned by this time.....Being from The U.S i don't think there is much of anything there to offer..so i do not go on and now It is LCB for me and I am grateful to be a part of, and i totally understand the lingo and don't feel lost on the site any more..at first , the renewed site had me lost and now i'm doing so much better with it ..Grateful LCB member..thank u all!!

Well I'm not here for a long time, but for sure there doubtfully are communities better than this one. Of course it might me some like .. the same level, I guess. I mean if community is interesting and useful it automatically goes to high level forums group.

And we are in the one, I'm sure :)

I never could navigate well around Casinomeister and I did not care for the treatment I received...I will stick with LCB and a couple other forums I frequent..your the best LCB!!!

I think this LCB forum is extremely civil. And I suppose the fact that members can get rewarded in a very concrete way in dollars and cents is another reason it is more popular. And some forums, I will not name any specifically, seem to be a bit elitist and get hijacked by people who feel they know it all. Not here at LCB, honestly, I have almost never had negative interactions with other members and the staff. Knock on wood. 

I am now a LCB member but I used to be a Casinomeister member in the past, years ago. I joined in after having payment problems with one casino. Casinomeister was helpfull in case of payment problems, but LCB website is more complete.

I love this site! My favorite !!!

I have been away for a long time doing a few things here and there to make extra money and also taking on jobs that drain my energy. I have recently taken on a job babysitting 3 kids under 4 for a while. I will say i do like CM i do not post much though because i am in the USA and not much to say. The other forum i am on i just try to go and get a few things done and ignore the picking. I love LCB because i have been a long time member who has had few problems here and usually if i run into anything it gets worked out. No attacking, trolling, bickering etc. Very peaceful here. I might go MIA but like my spirit animal the cat, i always come back. I am still getting used to the new forum and i have been working hard on my poetry in my free time. I have been trying to work on a book that has been put on hold to finish. I work so much now sometimes i fall into bed exhausted depending on what job i have taken on. I wish i could find one job that pays good and i can stop wearing myself out. For now i have to keep pushing and maybe one day i can retire with a nice nest egg . 

I m member on askgamblers 3 years i think and when i had problem with some casinos they always rejected my complaints, i had 3or 4 and always they find reason to defence casino rules. I hope that i wouldnt have problems anymore but if have i hope you will help me. 

I think that it all is whatever you make and take from it. It doesn't matter where you are, I can guarantee that given enough time, energy and attention, whatever it is you are looking for, you will begin to see.

I'm a member at all 3 and try to be helpful and respectful while offering my input, perspective and unsolicited humour and opinions. There are many individuals who are members of multiple communities online and never find much to complain or be bothered by, there are others who find something to upset them no matter where they are or who they interact with.

Life is short and generates enough of it's own drama and nonsense to deal with, I prefer to avoid it whenever possible in all its forms.

Cheers!  

Casinomeister is graphically stuck in the 90's. In this day and age attention to detail like that makes the difference. Lcb is miles and decades ahead of the competition. Content wise meister is likelly equal in quality but the design bothers me a lot.