World leaders are still willing to accept refugees from Syria since the recent acts of terrorism. Do you agree with this or should we shut our borders to them?
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absolutely not34.88% (15)
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yes they should53.49% (23)
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don't really care one way or the other6.98% (3)
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I am personally on the fence about this, on one hand i don't want any more Syrian refugees in my country. We place so much emphasis on protecting the innocent there, yet the people in our own country are in jeopardy and sometimes feel we have become to liberal as a society.
Then i read stories of how Jewish refugees were not allowed in certain countries at the start of World War ll. Hindsight is 20/20 and looking back now how could we turn them away.
I really feel split down the middle on this. It is a scary time for the world and some countries are more targets than others. Who would of ever imagined that with all the military,fighter pilots, training and weapons every country has prepared for war, we are up against a few suicide bombers at a time that are equipped only with a gun. And it is enough to forever reshape our world. -
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No.they are too different and cant integrate
They need receive help but not to come in my country
It is strange they not even like to come in my country because not have so many benefits here..they only want go in rich country
Border guards Timişeni they took the two refugee brothers , a few meters from the border with Serbia . When immigrants have realized that they are in Romania , they began to cry.
The men were taken by border guards and taken to hearings Timişeni writes opiniatimişoarei.ro . They cried and told the border guards that did not want to arrive in Romania , but got lost and believed to be in Hungary . Furthermore, they asked to be returned to Serbia .
So is obviously they are not happy only with peace -
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When immigrants have realized that they are in Romania , they began to cry.
Can't really blame them
Now seriously, if you have a choice, would you go to live in Romania or Germany? You surely have a lot better prospects in Germany (lots of Romanians are there already, including quite a few of my friends). -
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My answer is:
i still live n Romania
and maybe my answer is weird but im not agree people go in other country and i also have part family in Spain,was better with they home
I like see french in France.germans in Germany
i.m only agree if they go study or go work with contract and the most i agree peoples go in other country in vacantions
my opinion can be wrong i not say i have right,dont judge me to hard
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/19/the-murderers-next-door-romania
I live in this region.this article make me laugh because isnt true
but is good at least noone will come here because negative publicity
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My answer is yes, we should help them as much as possible. We had/have many refugees in Belgrade and they are mostly stationed around our Central Train and Bus Stations. I see them lying around on the grass, in small tents in the parks, and I don't mind them. At first it was weird, but now not so much, but a permanent solution is necessary.
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what happened to the human compassion and solidarity ...
Good question but i think there is compassion and real emotion looking at both sides so it is easy to understand why there is split reactions. It is natural to feel compassion in general for mankind and raw emotion when it happens in your homeland. -
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I lived in Oslo, Norway for a couple of years.There is a district, Gronland with a lot of refugees.
Read this article and You'll understand why my answer is the strongest NO:
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/muslims-turn-norway-suburb-into-crimeden-police-we-have-lost-the-city/ -
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At first, when none of this had happened, I was strongly saying and thinking- yes, we need to do that and it will help us too to be more humane. But when I saw the pictures where they are threating everyone who doesn't like their belief, when I heard about the many rapes they've done in Sweden and elsewhere, then Paris.. And the rudeness that comes across when they are not happy with the places they've gone to. Yes some sort of help is needed, but I think we need to think about ourselves first. Right now I'm afraid to live in my own country and I'm afraid to travel and that's not how I want to live. Might sound harsh but that's just how I feel.
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Ive seen the below quoted picture before. This is a proof how mainstream and social media influenced ppl are too quick to judge.
As it turned out that guy was a member of official Government forces so that image was taken out of the context and misused for the purpose sensationalism and creating fear.
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I lived in Oslo, Norway for a couple of years.There is a district, Gronland with a lot of refugees.
Read this article and You'll understand why my answer is the strongest NO:
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/muslims-turn-norway-suburb-into-crimeden-police-we-have-lost-the-city/
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Gregjo, those in Oslo are immigrants, we're talking about refugees. There's a huge difference between the two categories if you ask me.
[quote author=barebones link=topic=35864.msg391709#msg391709 date=1448029022]
[...] then Paris.. [...]
Paris has nothing to do with the Syrian refugees, all eight attackers were EU citizens. -
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Gregjo, those in Oslo are immigrants, we're talking about refugees. There's a huge difference between the two categories if you ask me.
I'm sorry Johnny, but I don't feel high difference. Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not racist and I have no Islamophobia.
My dentist, Vissem is from Lebanon. He's a very hard-working, friendly and clever guy. He's Muslim. And he's afraid of the refugees as well. ISIS members are hard to find. They will continue to subvert Europe from within. I think Europe should punish and destroy the ISIS instead of take in refugees.Syria is their homeland, and not Europe.
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I'm sorry Johnny, but I don't feel high difference. Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not racist and I have no Islamophobia.
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Imagine there would be a civil war in Hungary and that your life would be in danger every day. I guess you'd want to leave, right? I know I would. And maybe you'd want to come to Romania, hypothetically speaking. But Romanians wouldn't take you in because you're a Catholic for instance. How does that sound?
Apart from that, it's true that several people are coming into Europe from other countries in the Arab world, taking advantage of the wave of Syrian refugees. But that doesn't change my opinion about the REAL refugees, people that are trying to keep themselves and their children alive and maybe build them a better future in a peaceful country.
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ISIS members are hard to find. They will continue to subvert Europe from within. I think Europe should punish and destroy the ISIS instead of take in refugees. Syria is their homeland, and not Europe.
Again, ISIS attacks in Paris have nothing to do with the Syrian refugees. Secondly, refugees have been fleeing Syria for about three years now, millions of them in Jordan and in Turkey. Where should they go, back to Syria to die, caught in the middle in a conflict between a tyrant (Assad) and a bunch of lunatics (ISIS)? -
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But Romanians wouldn't take you in because you're a Catholic for instance. How does that sound?
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You misunderstood me. I don't judge people by their religion, skin color, nationality, etc...
Apart from that, it's true that several people are coming into Europe from other countries in the Arab world, taking advantage of the wave of Syrian refugees. But that doesn't change my opinion about the REAL refugees, people that are trying to keep themselves and their children alive and maybe build them a better future in a peaceful country.
This is the real problem. Can You distinguish between real refugees and ISIS members? If can't, would You like to risk Your, Your relatives and friends life?
I'd like to live in a peaceful world. But honestly, do You think this is possible?
[quote author=Johnny Karp link=topic=35864.msg391766#msg391766 date=1448050083]
Again, ISIS attacks in Paris have nothing to do with the Syrian refugees. Secondly, refugees have been fleeing Syria for about three years now, millions of them in Jordan and in Turkey. Where should they go, back to Syria to die, caught in the middle in a conflict between a tyrant (Assad) and a bunch of lunatics (ISIS)?
Imo this solution would be the best: http://qz.com/495075/an-egyptian-billionaire-wants-to-buy-a-mediterranean-island-for-refugees/
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This is the real problem. Can You distinguish between real refugees and ISIS members? If can't, would You like to risk Your, Your relatives and friends life?
I'd like to live in a peaceful world. But honestly, do You think this is possible?
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It's not my job to distinguish between them, that's why we have police, tons of security forces and Viktor Orban Threats to security will continue to exist, they existed long before Syria (remember 9/11 or Atocha in 2004?).
As long as EU citizens that support ISIS can move freely to Syria and back (like the coordinator of the Paris attacks) I guess that's where the real problem is. We can't build fences and walls to stop threats, the Middle Ages have ended a few centuries ago.
[quote author=Gregjo link=topic=35864.msg391770#msg391770 date=1448052825]
Imo this solution would be the best: http://qz.com/495075/an-egyptian-billionaire-wants-to-buy-a-mediterranean-island-for-refugees/
That billionaire seems a bit of a show-off to me, he could have bought the island already. -
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...we have police, tons of security forces and Viktor Orban ...
We can't build fences and walls to stop threats, the Middle Ages have ended a few centuries ago.
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But he tries:
As long as EU citizens that support ISIS can move freely to Syria and back (like the coordinator of the Paris attacks) I guess that's where the real problem is. We can't build fences and walls to stop threats, the Middle Ages have ended a few centuries ago.
You're right, Middle Ages have ended but the Dark Ages are back. I'd like to minimize the risk factor and say no to taking in Syrian refugees.
[quote author=Johnny Karp link=topic=35864.msg391772#msg391772 date=1448054404]
That billionaire seems a bit of a show-off to me, he could have bought the island already.
He was attacked by the Greek government. They said the guy wants to get a private army with an own homeland and they refused the buying offer. -
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Syria has been a WORLD problem for a very long time and as they do not have so much oil no-one cared for a very long time, I mean we are talking about many YEARS of civil war of the worst kind. Two countries, Russia and China, have blocked every resolution of the UNO for those many years. The logical consequence is that the people are leaving the country and they would keep to do so unless we do not resolve the problem. Interestingly they do not want to go to Saudi Arabia or VAE and prefer to live in a country dominated by christians.
Stopping refugees from getting in would not stop terrorists at all. They (the modern terrorist) are good organised and have enough money to go where they want to, legal or illegal. Being cruel to refugees would not help. Those people (the refugees), they trust us to be good christians and to help them. Crazy world. -
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I'm sorry Johnny, but I don't feel high difference. Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not racist and I have no Islamophobia.
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Imagine there would be a civil war in Hungary and that your life would be in danger every day. I guess you'd want to leave, right? I know I would. And maybe you'd want to come to Romania, hypothetically speaking. But Romanians wouldn't take you in because you're a Catholic for instance. How does that sound?
Apart from that, it's true that several people are coming into Europe from other countries in the Arab world, taking advantage of the wave of Syrian refugees. But that doesn't change my opinion about the REAL refugees, people that are trying to keep themselves and their children alive and maybe build them a better future in a peaceful country.
[quote author=Gregjo link=topic=35864.msg391765#msg391765 date=1448049482]
ISIS members are hard to find. They will continue to subvert Europe from within. I think Europe should punish and destroy the ISIS instead of take in refugees. Syria is their homeland, and not Europe.
Again, ISIS attacks in Paris have nothing to do with the Syrian refugees. Secondly, refugees have been fleeing Syria for about three years now, millions of them in Jordan and in Turkey. Where should they go, back to Syria to die, caught in the middle in a conflict between a tyrant (Assad) and a bunch of lunatics (ISIS)?
Yes i would accept Hungarians refugees because i know after war they will go home and they arent agressive
I have a few neighbours and aren,t different than us and i like catholic churches even if i born ortodox,i go where i want noone put me interdiction
this is my opinion ,i def accept refugees from any civilized country -
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this is my opinion ,i def accept refugees from any civilized country
Imagine you would have been born in Syria or Iraq, just think about that. As long as you think you're better than somebody else just because you were born here and he was born somewhere else... there isn't much left to say. -
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my favorite song from all the times to calm this conflict
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj75Arhq5ho
apology,peace and love to all -
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Ive seen the below quoted picture before. This is a proof how mainstream and social media influenced ppl are too quick to judge.
As it turned out that guy was a member of official Government forces so that image was taken out of the context and misused for the purpose sensationalism and creating fear.
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I am sorry Zuga but there is enough going on that is real without capitalizing on some media propaganda.
Yes the media is a great cause for the worlds problems today, but in the current ISIS crisis i don't think misjudging images or influencing the masses with false information is going to make much of a difference at this point. -
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That what happened in Paris is shocking and i wish that wont hapend ever again, but there is a lot of good people for there , poor people that are running away for war in their countries . They are carring their childrens and want a better life for them . I know there is a lot of terrorist , but not all . There should be more controle on borders .
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yes let them all in they are just people trying to get away from war they are not terrorist, the real terrorist are the caucasians they shoot up schools and do massive killings and they also blow up stuff every other day, I still have yet to see a refugee do any harm and there's millions of them.
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There are refugees leaving Syria due to horrendous conditions. They are fleeing to save their lives and the lives of children. I think that if there is an intense background check, definitely counties should help those that are trying to escape.
Luke made a good point. There are massive amounts of violence here in America that have nothing to do with immigrants. I think that more needs to be done to keep people from being able to build an arsenal....legally....right here.
I could really go on and on about that subject, but I will stop here. -
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I lived in Oslo, Norway for a couple of years.There is a district, Gronland with a lot of refugees.
Read this article and You'll understand why my answer is the strongest NO:
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/muslims-turn-norway-suburb-into-crimeden-police-we-have-lost-the-city/
I lived in Oslo, Norway for a couple of years.There is a district, Gronland with a lot of refugees.
Read this article and You'll understand why my answer is the strongest NO:
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/muslims-turn-norway-suburb-into-crimeden-police-we-have-lost-the-city/
Take it easy man. The Oslo police has not "lost the city". The ambulances and the firefighters can still drive in to all parts of Oslo, without escorte from the police.
As they can not in some Swedish cities, like Stockholm and Malmø. -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY9HYV3ZNgA
Friendly immigrants in Hungary There are a lot of videos like this. My vote goes to NO Kids with mothers - ok, those friendly guys - hell no. -
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I personally feel that this is not just a trouble with a particular country but a particular mindset to create hell on earth, killing innocent people in the name of religion. Ironically, Saudi Arabia and a few more nations finance this massacre.
Kudos to Putin to clear this mess. Any such conquest by any terrorist organization in any part of the world should be diminished. -
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We are a nation of immigrants. You let them in. I grew up during Vietnam, I remember Vietnamese kids coming to the school. Did we toss the Japanese out just because of Pearl Harbor. Some of our greatest citizens will be some Muslims that really appreciate that we saved their necks.
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I think Saudi Arabia should spearhead the task of welcoming the immigrants from Syria. They are a very wealthy nation and they should help their Muslim brothers
That's not going to happen, people in Saudi Arabia are Sunni Muslims, most Syrian refugees are Shia Muslims. In fact, Saudi Arabia is believed to be backing ISIS, which are also Sunni, as they want to reduce the influence of Shia-led states in the region (mainly Iran and Syria). -
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Have seen this topic over the last couple of months and I never responded. The USA has always helped others in their times of need. I am proud of that fact. Whenever there is a crisis, we are the ones other countries look to for guidance. If we don't start protecting our own interest, and protecting our citizens, there will be no USA for others to run to. Financially it is crippling our economy. My heart goes out to those in need, and I thank God everyday I was born in this great country. Terrorists , groups with their own agendas are everywhere. We need to figure out a better way to monitor who we are letting into this country. Not just the Syrians, everyone. Before any one slams me for thinking this way , I know that there are good people trying to enter this country, probably 98 percent. But that other 2 percent have killed about 4000 of our citizens. Can we afford not to change our policies.
thank you didn't mean to ramble on
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The refugees problem is the biggest challenge we have had since the WWII and no-one knows what to do.The life with the refugees is changing so fast and the people do have problems to adapt and this apply to everyone. All of a sudden we don't have enough buildings, enough jobs etc. And of course those Christmas pictures in Cologne, not the best publicity for the refugees and for the outlanders. At the end of January we are still discussing those pictures and the problems from the January 1st.
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