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  • Hi everyone,

    My name is Sam and I'm writing on behalf of the BetFTV ( Fashion TV Casino and Sportsbook).

    If you ever need help or assistance, or have any question regarding BetFTV, we would be happy to help!

    I look forward to chatting with you all and reading the interesting threads in this forum smiley

  • Hi Sam,

    Welcome to the forum. that for starting this thread and being available to assist our lovely members.

  • hello betFTV! i have a problem!!! since 25.07. my withrawal is pending! all documents are verified...but the support cant tell me why is my money pending....can you help me???

  • this  week every day was me told that i will get my withdraval next day for sure...today told me the support that normaly withdrawal took 10-12working days...i have all chat discuss saved for security....i dont know what should i think about this situation...

  • rachel why is my withdrawal still pending?
    you have said yesterday that i will get it today for sure
    Rachel 08:17:37 pm
    PLet me check please
    Andras Bors 08:19:46 pm
    ok
    ???
    Rachel 08:27:22 pm
    Mr.Andras,you will get an email today after processing withdrawal completely
      Andras Bors 08:27:40 pm
    today???
    that means in 3,5hours?
    Rachel 08:28:39 pm
    yes

    now i get this information cheesy i am very  curious about this!

  • i have received my money now!

  • Welcome Sam to the forum  smiley

    it is easy to navigate Fashion TV Casino and good selections of games

  • Hello,

    I'm still waiting mine.  Withdrawal from July 29th still pending.. and each days was promised it would be today..  then delayed the next days and so on.. exact same message from her: "you will get an email today after processing withdrawal completely"

  • Still nothing yet, payment promised once again today.. nothing yet..since July 29th.

  • Hi there everyone,

    So sorry to not have gotten back to you all sooner.

    I am glad to see most of you have received your payment and everything seems in order.

    Simon, I have sent your issue over to the IT Team at BetFTV to try and get this sorted out.

  • Hello Sam, please help me with my withdraw :-( I wait from 29.8, 6 days already....... Support still write me, that everithig ok, that I must wait, etc, but 6 days is very long time for casino NETENT... Please look on this.... Bye, Eli - ekravcova.

  • sissi1...i have waiting for a withdrawal more than a week but i can say that they will pay your winning!


  • Hello Sam, please help me with my withdraw :-( I wait from 29.8, 6 days already....... Support still write me, that everithig ok, that I must wait, etc, but 6 days is very long time for casino NETENT... Please look on this.... Bye, Eli - ekravcova.


    they seem to have 8 days pending time before they process your withdrawal... that is quite a rogue term if you Ask me and keen to hear an explanation from the representative.

    i suspect this is why its taking such a long time . what ever you do , don't play it back
  • I still don´t have my money.....Support still write me, that please wait, you get soon...every day...Today is 10 days already.... Very bad for BRAND casino FASHION.......Brand casino used rogue practic....... I am very unhappy from this.... :-(

  • Hi Eli -  sissi1,

    The fiance team is working on getting everyone's withdrawals processed asap. You should be receiving your money shortly.

    I'm sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you and I hope the situation can be resolved very soon.

    Thanks,

    The BetFTV Team

  • Continue with BetFTV..... So I hope that monday I will have money..... This will 17 days what I wait on money in this casino.......

    " Chat transcript

    Name: ekavcova

    E-mail: <email removed>









    Nic Fri, 09/11/15 08:00:55 pm UTC

    Welcome to BetFTV. How may I help you?





    ekavcova 08:01:00 pm

    Hi Nic





    Nic 08:02:49 pm

    hey your withdraw will is proceeded as promised we really like to apologies for the delay happen you will get your payment now within 48 hours





    ekavcova 08:03:30 pm

    hm...yesterda you write that within 24 hours.... really 48 hours????? :-)





    Nic 08:04:20 pm

    yes yesterday i right about withdraw will proceed in 24 hours finally and now i am telling you the time in which you will get all money into your account





    ekavcova 08:05:18 pm

    ok, so today is 11.9 22:04 so max to monday morning, 14.9 up to 9. 00 I can wait money on my skrill..... yes?





    Nic 08:05:31 pm

    yes there is no way it will going to become tuesday
    yes you will get it





    ekavcova 08:06:43 pm

    ok, I will wait, I believe that this conflict will be have happyend,,,,





    Nic 08:06:51 pm

    welcome :-) yes this time finally you don't have to be get disappointed , i know you have gone through alot so thanks for cooperating
    bye for now
    see you around





    ekavcova 08:07:00 pm

    so bye for now





    Duration: 6m 12s


    Chat has been opened from website - BetFtv

  • I still don´t have money..... This is joke????? Your casino has LICENCE, you still lie me!!!!!! When you send me my win?????

  • This casino really make joke with their players.....!!!! My patience the end..... Monday I write with Rachel - support about my still wait withdraw. So Rachel write me, that I must make CANCEL pending withdraw from 4.9 /this will be second cancel from 29.8 - first was because this casino can send only 5000 on week, so I cancel my withdraw from 29.8 and make two new withdraw 4.9/ and I must make new withdraw on NETELLER!!!! Because the have problem with Skrill exclamation!!! / I play on 100 next casino and I se firsttime, that casino has problem with Skrill.../ . I write Rachel, that ok, If I make new wihdraw - so they send me complet money, my 10000, because this will be again new withdraw exclamation!!!! Our chat :

    sissi 06:40:50 pm
    OK, so Rachel - now you promise me , that If I make new withdraw on Neteller - you send me money up to 48 hours, up to 16.9?????? yes????

    Rashel 06:41:21 pm
    Yes

    sissi 06:41:51 pm
    ok.... I go to cashier, so wait



    Rashel 06:42:10 pm
    Sure


    sissi 06:42:55 pm
    and I can withdraw one 10.000???


    Rashel 06:43:53 pm
    Please do 5000 5000


    sissi 06:44:25 pm

    why 5000 if 5000 is for week, and you write me that complet you send me up to 2 days???????


    Rashel 06:44:47 pm
    complete

    So Rachel write me that send me COMPLETE 10.000 exclamation!!


    AND - before, Rachel write me, that for verification my Neteller account in casino - I must make deposit from Neteller account.
    Ok, I make deposit 20 EUR.
    And immediately I make two withdraw on Neteller 5000 and 5000.

    When I make withdraw - in cashier I read : Please note, since you did not roll over your last deposit 3 times, your withdrawal may be charged a fee.

    So I write Rachel - Rachel - I hope that no charged because my 5000 and 5000 no NEW deposit!!!!!! Only 20 for verification exclamation!!

    Rachel write me that no, nothing charged!!!!!

    Next our chat :

    sissi 06:47:43 pm
    OK RACHEL! I make two withdraw on Neteller!!!!!
    So I will wait UP TO 16.9, wednesday!!!!!!!!!!
    ok?????
    You see????
    Rachel???



    Rashel 06:50:19 pm
    yes



    sissi 06:50:26 pm
    so I can wait???



    Rashel 06:50:41 pm
    of course


    So, MY BIG SURPRISE TODAY exclamation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THEY SEND ME ONLY FIRST PAYMENT exclamation!!!!! NO COMPLET 10000, AND NO ônothing charged" because they send me only 4900 exclamation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So my question - this casino is really brand????? I think that they do what they want!!!!!!!

    Today I open chat and I write about my second payment - Ashley write me - Eli, you can withdraw only 5000 on week exclamation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I wait 3 week, they have problem with skrill, I must still cancel withdraw - and they send me -100 Eur and I must wait next week??????????????
    Rachel promise me that today I receive complet money!!!!!

    This is very very bad joke!!! :-(

    This casino must be on black list, because this is very rogue practic!!!

    I will wait on Rachel tomorrow and I will ask about this all.......


    *******************So players, If you want play on this casino - you will wait on your win maybe one months......................................*******************

  • Hi sissi1,

    We notified the rep. thank you for your patience.

  • Hey everyone,

    I have an issue with betftv. I had a total rollover requirement of just under 24000€.  (Deposit 400 and bonus 400). I had support verify that 24000 is the rollover before I started playing.

    I have so far wagered over 29500€. Much, much more.
    I have proof of that.

    I have screenshots of my gaming history, yet  they keep telling me I have to wager more and that I am not done.

    How do I get help on that? I would very much like to withdraw my winnings successfully and get a reputable/decent service, as I got very lucky.

  • Hi Eagle7,

    The rep has been notified.

  • Thank you, Mel!
    The gist is simple, and can be told two sentences.

    They told me to play more (total rollover was 24 000), with some weird figures of theirs.
    And I have checked my history, and I have played 29587.5 already. And I have proof of it.

    I need someone there to stop stalling me and fix that for me.

  • I have now noticed another very interesting thing on betftv.

    I have won and I currently have over 19 000€ there.

    They have in the past few days (!) changed their Terms and Conditions, adding a clause about how the maximum that can be bet is 6.25€. I would not be surprised if it was due to my case, and that it goes along with trying to get me to play more.


    However, luckily I have not played further, I have now noticed the change, and I had saved the entire Terms and Conditions that were there when I registered when I started playing and completed my wagering anyway.
    So that maneuver will not work.

    I hope I don't see any more tricks like that.
    This dispute is easy enough to resolve IMHO.

    I would also like to speed up this process, if at all possible...  You can understand that I am eager to have this positively and fairly resolved. Nothing more, nothing less.
    I have no problem with weekly installments for the payout.

  • I had a lengthy, but possibly productive, chat with one of the seniors today.

    Finally I got somebody who found the right figure I'd wagered.
    There were several twists still.


    Like expected and mentioned in the post above, I got linked a page listing the term about the max bet limit.
    I responded with stating that those terms are changed, and uploading the terms that were there when I was playing.


    I also got mentioned the term stating that the rollover is 60x (bonus+deposit). That would be quite a rollover!
    I responded with stating that the Terms when I registered were both 30x (bonus+deposit) and 60x (bonus+deposit) in two different places, and that I had chatted with support and gotten a confirmation that 30x (bonus+deposit) was the correct figure.

    Today I finally got a confirmation that I'd wagered 29500 and change euros (unlike 3-4 previous chats, which were all saying total rollover is 24000 but that I'd done only 13000 and change..).


    So everything is set up now.
    I then got told that I can send them all screenshots of that. And that if things are like I say they are, then they'll fix everything up for me.
    And I did do that. And I have gotten an email from them stating that they received it and they'll fix it up ASAP.


    I'll keep you all posted on how it develops!

  • Thanks for the update Eagle7.

    We are also waiting on confirmation about the fees charged for e-wallet withdrawals. When hear back from the rep i will post an update.

  • Hi BetFtv, I I still do not have money!!!!! I wait from 29.8....... First payment you send me 16.9, second payment still pending..... So how much I must wait else huh?? I wait cca 1 months already......!!! Please write me, when you send me my win.....

  • Very very serious this casino!!!! For example - please read our chat - yesterday and today.... This casino only lie.......lie....lie...... Of course no money I don´t have.....Still ....... They have T&C -5000 on week withdraw, so because they send me first payment 16.9, I hoped that next payment they send this week. Today finance team not working, so they not send again!!!!!!!!!!

    OUR CHAT YESTERDAY :


    Tyler Fri, 09/25/15 07:42:57 pm UTC
    Welcome to BetFTV. How may I help you?

    sissi 07:43:02 pm
    Hi Tyler
     
    Tyler 07:43:30 pm
    hey

    sissi 07:43:48 pm
    Tyler Maria write me, that today I receive money!!!
    sissi 02:53:29 pm Maria please look on my withdraw... my patience is end.... Maria 02:53:31 pm How are you today dear Eli? sissi 02:53:32 pm I still wait 16.9 finance send me first payment 5000, therefore you have lmit 5000 on week, Adriana write me, that next payment I receive this week up to friday but today is last day and I still dont have money..... what it is?... Maria 02:56:04 pm Please wait a moment and let me check your account sissi 02:56:10 pm ok so? Maria 03:10:47 pm Yes, your withdrawal will process today after reaching finance team sissi 03:11:14 pm so today you send me money yes? Maria 03:11:17 pm So you can wait today next 4 hours for money sissi 03:12:17 pm I understand that up to 4 hours I receive money on Neteller, yes? Maria 03:12:24 pm yes sissi 03:12:38 pm Hurraaaa exclamation! ok, I will wait and hope ;-) thank you for your help Maria 03:13:59 pm you are welcome sissi 03:14:24 pm bye Duration: 21m 30s
    This is our chat!!!
    I still not have money!!!


    Tyler 07:45:37 pm
    if she said so then it will proceeded you will get confirmation mail within 2-4 hours i have checked maria has already mentioned a mail regarding you
     
    sissi 07:46:25 pm
    so today I can wait yes, else?

    Tyler 07:46:34 pm
    yes you can
    hey your withdraw is under process and you will get it soon how about playing with 100% bonus i mean you can give us a chance to assist you and start things in better way


    sissi 07:49:21 pm
    If I receive money, next I can play.... But I want see, that money I have. And when I must wait every withdraw 1 months.....so this time very very bad for you casino..... I win yesterday in casino Casumo, 9000, and today they send me...... 1 day!!!


    Tyler 07:50:53 pm
    that is what you have said earlier that once you get 5000 you will start trusting but no worry it is was always your choice yes i know the delay happen alot but that is why we wanted to start the things again in new way so that you don't get any bad impression and we were asking for one chance


    sissi 07:52:28 pm
    ok, so I wait money and you can send me promotion....maybe I will play.... Let me think....

    Tyler 07:54:40 pm
    today we have 100% bonus going on for 30X wagering
    you can try a bit till then we can proceed your withdraw
     
      sissi 08:08:47 pm
    ok, thanks, and about my withdraw? I will have up to 1-2 hours?
    I want wait

    Tyler 08:09:58 pm
    yes i will make sure about withdraw
    you can go for deposit
    and rest i will take care of
    i have just sent you a official mail with 110% bonus code
    you can go for that as security


    Tyler 08:14:35 pm
    sorry but its not like i want to lie accounts team will proceeded your withdraw soon i will make sure of it but i can't give you words that it will be proceeded within 1 hours it not easy for me but as i promised it will get done by today you go for play, i will make sure and deal with accounts team


    sissi 08:15:48 pm
    Up to end today is 2 hours....
    because I have worry, that your finance team weekend no work....
    so you write me after, that I must wait to monday....
     
    Tyler 08:17:27 pm
    no we are in curraco so here it is 4:16 PM so it will proceed today it may be possible that you get it after 12 AM so don't worry we will take care of that
     
    sissi 08:20:10 pm
    ok.... I believe to you LAST TIME! ok?
    and this chat I send to my mail
    if not you send - this chat I send to LCB and askgambler...as complaint... because this is last chance for your casino... ok?
     
    Tyler 08:21:35 pm
    oky thank you for giving us a chance don't worry we will try to make everything good from now on you will not face any concern now
    ok

    Tyler 08:26:20 pm
    if you win right now and proceed then you will get your withdraw in within 48 hours of getting 5000 i will not lie to you what will true happen i am telling you
    so that you don't get confused


    sissi 08:33:38 pm
    ok, so bye for now

    AND NEXT CHAT TODAY :


    Tyler Sat, 09/26/15 09:41:17 am UTC
    Welcome to BetFTV. How may I help you?

    sissi 09:41:23 am
    Hi Tyler!
    Halo!!!

    Tyler 09:50:32 am
    How may I help you?


    sissi 10:17:13 am
    Tyler!!! I still not have money!!!!!
    You're not serious???? you lied again!!!!
    You write me yesterday, that max. up to 12:00 our time today I will have money!!!!!!!!!!!
    If you want my deposit so you will lie???????
    I make deposit, because I hope that today you send me exclamation!!!!!
    I will send our chat to LCB your rep and Mel, and complaint to askgambers, because this is very rogue exclamation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Your casino lie me one onths already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    months!!!!!!
    this you write me exclamation!!!!! of course, of course, you receive money!!!!! Now where are?????????????????????????????????????????
    You is here???????????????????????????????


    Tyler 10:24:50 am
    let me check your account

    sissi 10:25:37 am
    Tyler, you check my account yesterday!!!!
    and today I had to have money already!!!!
     
    Tyler 10:27:01 am
    sorry but as I check your account there is no updated status of your withdrawal.
    i need to contact with finance but as you know that they don't work on Saturday and sunday

    sissi 10:27:32 am
    You're not serious??????????????????
    YOU WRITE ME THAT THEY SEND ME MONEY YESTERDAY!!!!!
    Halo!!!!
     
    Tyler 10:28:11 am
    possibly you will get your money in your account with in few hours



    sissi 10:28:16 am
    you read our chat??????


    Tyler 10:28:22 am
    yes


    sissi 10:28:25 am
    Or you not remember????
    So they working yesterday!!!!!!!!!
     
    Tyler 10:28:41 am
    nd am not saying that they didn't sent your money


    sissi 10:28:48 am
    why they no send money yesterday???????

    Tyler 10:29:04 am
    i am just saying that your withdrawal status is not updated yet


    sissi 10:29:25 am
    Tyler , this is fact - I not have money!!!!!
    you want my deposit so you lie me yesterday!!!!!!


    Tyler 10:29:53 am
    ok, please wait for some more hours and if you are not getting your money till then please let me know

    sissi 10:30:28 am
    You write that today not wotking finance team exclamation!!!!!!!!
    so why I must wait if finance not working???????
    THEY should send yesterday!!!!
    but you are hustler and liar???????????????????
    your casino is The worst of the market!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I will write and send this chat and yestreday chat to LCB, and askgamblers, and I will send complaint to Curacao licencing team, because Fashion Group is very very big fraud!!!

    So... What I can do??????


    Tis casino violates the its own rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So I wait answer from rep this casino exclamation!

    Admin LCB. please, do for this casino caution - this casino has slowly payment, violates own rules etc....








    Tyler 08:33:48 pm

    bye






    Rated:

    5/ 5

  • Very normal for this operators to lie .....this is the worst casino I ever played.I haven't recived my withdrawal ,they voided it,because I've won from my second bonus.....and confiscated my deposit also.Great job!!!!!When I've asked the chat when I will receive my money,they request an deposit,and assured me that all is ok,and I will recive my winnings,and after 10 days they give me an answer.....confiscate my winnings and deposit,but I'm not surprised from this casino.

  • I agree with you, this casino must be put under warning even if you get the money afterall.It is unacceptable what they are doing.Good luck sissi1,I hope you get all your winnings.

  • Sissi, have you recived any answer,or they still tell you lied?maybe finally they will send you the money!

  • Please note the casino has been added to the warning list in order to ward players off playing at the casino. We hope sissi1's payment will be sorted soon.

  • Despite everything getting setup by the time I posted last time here, it did not get resolved so far.

    Here are a few screenshots for my situation and for the 19k+ they owe me.
    I have more screenshots (all the terms, their whole website, my whole gaming history etc.); these 4 cover everything discussed. The rollover and the terms change.

    In the last chat I had with support I got an acknowledgment that everything would get sorted for me as soon as they checked them out.
    However, that didn't happen still.

    I haven't had any succes in contacting anyone on live chat who can do anything about it since.
    And they haven't responded to the email with this info, despite the assurance it'd happen right away.

  • Hi Maya17, Edi,

    I still wait....... Please read, as this is casino lie..... I have two chat again :-DDDD

    One chat - yeasterday : yes, yes, we send money today or tomorrow /they think today, 29.9/
    Second chat today : sorry , we send money this week :-DDD

    EVERY week still different answer....... This is joke.....
    Our chat here :

    1.

    John Mon, 09/28/15 01:09:35 pm UTC
    Welcome to BetFTV. How may I help you?
     
      ekravcova 01:09:40 pm
    Hi

    John 01:12:06 pm
    hello

    ekravcova 01:19:14 pm
    John I need only one answer
    WHEN casino send me my money???
    Every day I speak with differnet agent..... Every agent write me other vesrion...
    So I need know WHEN


    John 01:20:40 pm
    Please wait a moment and let me check your withdarwal


    ekravcova 01:20:54 pm
    yes, ok, my withdraw you have from 29.8...
    14.9 I change from Skrill on Neteller, because you have problem with Skrill
    so I wait 1 months already exclamation!!
    so?



    John 01:31:56 pm
    As you know that your withdrawal of 5000€ has been processed successfully
     
    John 01:32:36 pm
    and another withdrawal of 5000€ will be processed today or tomorrow


      ekravcova 01:32:37 pm
    I wait from 29.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This write me Maria, Adriana, Tyler etc, that today or tomorrow...
    100% I can wait money up to 2 days?
     

    John 01:35:47 pm
    Yes,sure
     
    ekravcova 01:35:52 pm
    You have answer from finance that they send me today or tomorrow?
    ok.....
    I will wait...
    I hope that really I receive
    so thanks, bye

    2. 
    John Tue, 09/29/15 03:14:49 pm UTC
    Welcome to BetFTV. How may I help you?


    sissi 03:14:59 pm
    Hi John


    John 03:17:10 pm
    Hello


      sissi 03:17:16 pm
    I write with you yeasterday
    that yeasterday or today you send me money!
    I still dont have!
    So?


    John 03:21:21 pm
    Most probably ,your withdrawal will be processed in this week
    So don't get stress and wait for withdrawal which will be processed in this week
    As you know ,they have to transfer your withdrawal


    sissi 03:23:27 pm
    John I wait one montht already! And still agent of support write me - dont stress, tomorrow, this week, tomorrow...., still only promise!!!
    after 1 week they write me too - this week
    you write me tomorrow
    now you write me - this week
    this is
    joke?


    John 03:24:30 pm
    We really apologize for inconvenience caused to you
    We really appropriate your patience


      sissi 03:26:05 pm
    John, other casino send money up to 1 days exclamation! Casumo, Playhippo, casinoeuro etc!!!! O N E day!
    no 1 months
    Betsafe send up to 1 HOURS!
    NOTHING casino not to do what you
    so how much I will wait else huh?
    this week can be next week again??????
    you write me that SURE I receive today!!
    YOU WRITE ME!
    now you write me this week
    only lie???


    John 3:30:22 pm
    As i said to you that most probably your withdrawal will be processed in this week


      sissi 03:30:52 pm
    OK? and if no huh??????????????
    next week you again write me - next week???
     

    John 03:31:27 pm
    of course not


    sissi 03:31:29 pm
    your casino dont have money?????
    so I very very very curious!!!!!!!!
    so up to friday they send me huh??


    John 03:32:29 pm
    yes

    sissi 03:32:57 pm
    ok, next last termine what I must wait...... this is joke this casino...
    bye





    John 03:33:22 pm

    Sorry for delaying once again dear Eli
    Have a great day



    3.5/ 5

    Rated:

    5/ 5

    5/ 5

  • And Maya17, THEY CONFISCATE WIN????? Omg....... how is that possible???? some reason ?

  • I cant explain to myself why they no pay,this casino is not that one who have a TV chanell whith modeling?

  • Today I finally managed to get a hold of one of the senior managers.

    I was told that he has received all the info from the accounts team, that it'll get resolved ASAP, that I'm all good (completely), and that on the 1st of October I can place my first withdrawal request.

    Keeping my fingers crossed. And I will keep you all posted.

  • I keep my fingeres crossed for you guys, I hope you will tell us some good news finnaly.

  • Yes,they confiscated my money from the 15 free because was the second bonus recived in the casino.But before I deposit they assured me that I will get the winnings after deposit.Anyway, they gave me an answer regarding my withdrawal after 10 days.I've also lost my 20 deposit. They only want to make you deposit, and to not pay.

  • I have problem with a withdrawal. And I have even sent following e-mail to support, without an answer. Withdrawal request done 19.9.

    "Good evening!

    I am writing to you as I am getting rather worried about my latest withdrawal of 397.50 Eur.

    It`s been 5-6 six days now since I made the request and I have heard nothing about the process of the withdrawal so far. The reason why I am so worried as only such a short period of time has passed are followings:

    1. The "live help" doesn't seem to take this as their concern, only giving empty promises of taking care of the matter

    2. As earlier mentioned, there' s been no info whatsoever about the process ( no e-mail, no notifications)

    3. Only e-mail i`ve been received so far is a blank "verification mail". ( nothing in it) I also tried to ask Live support for help how to verificate my account, so I send the requested documents. I never got any kind of answer whether my account is verificated or not.

    4. The withdrawal system is also really complicated. As it's impossible to use Mastercard to withdraw money. Only E-Wallets accepted! This matter is pushing me to use Skrill that I am not very familiar with.

    I am really looking forward your co-operation on this issue as it's been 5 days and I find these matters aggravating. I am a gambler that happen to be a lawyer in a decent sized Finnish company and I've  seen many similar cases from gaming companies. Companies that all seem to to be hoaxes. I've even gotten one to get shut down.

    I also have a proof of these worrying issues.

    I hope you consider paying my withdrawal to my bank account before any correctional consequences take in place. Name: Otto Gr********, Iban: FI91 15****************. Swift/Bic: NDEAFIHH

    Faithfully:

    Otto Gr********** "

    Still no answers taken place

  • Sorry to say,but I am sure that you will not reciive any answer by email...they never reply on emails,and live chat are mistrust,maybe you will get the withdrawal but with long delay.

  • 1st of October (yesterday) came and went, nothing was sorted out.
    I did go to live chat, and on a third try or so managed to get a hold of Nic Johnson, one of two managers who supposedly are able to get everything fixed up (the other one is Maria).

    I received an apology for it not being sorted, and a claim that the tech support team was supposed to complete it by now.
    I received a promise it would be done either later that day or by today (2.10.).


    Today it still is not done. After a few live chats, I managed to get a hold of Maria.
    We had another chat. She told me she'd take a closer look at my account and that it might take a while.

    I have waited for her next comment for 55 minutes. Such long delays appear to be a common occurance.
    Her next comment was another attempt to impose additional wagering on me (up to 120x bonus).
    I replied saying that the whole issue is tech team or accounts team or whoever not getting that sorted out, and that I have completed way over the agreed requirement (24000, which was 60x bonus). I was already over this with support, many, many times.

    [A quick recap, I have previously received a confirmation that the "accounts team is aware of the whole situation with the rollover and that it will be sorted and that then I'll be able to play on, withdraw, do as I please", and that's the main thing we're waiting for ATM. That's the thing that was supposed to happen by 1st of October]

    She then asked for another moment, which took almost 30 minutes.
    I was then told to look for another senior, [I will rather not mention her name for now], in a couple of hours.


    Apparently Maria wasn't as up to date as one would expect.

    I will keep you all posted.

  • So on the same day (today, 2. 10.) I have returned online after those couple of hours.

    I was then told that this new manager in the story, let's call her R., that I was supposed to meet at that point isn't there. "She is on week off today" were the exact words.

    However, I was told I'd get an email from N. J. in 20 minutes. 30 at the most.

    it is now an hour passed that, and I haven't received any emails [nor do I care about emails much, I just want my account sorted]. I came online to ask what's up. I was told that N. J. is getting it sorted out with the accounts team as we speak. And that I'll get an email about it ASAP.

    That is the latest info. smiley

  • This casino seems to be underfunded and stalling. Their name is being tarnished by the day due to non payment. The rep here has seemly disappeared. We maybe looking at another Winpalace / Rushmore in the making. Casinos seems to forget if you accept and bet then you must pay a bet. Stalling is one of the worst things you can do. 

  • Chocolate Man, you really think, that they can close casino surprise huh And what their BRAND - FashionTV??? Fashion TV is very good image in TV, they know about this casino???? I don´t understand, that brand casino used this practice?

  • Really i have never seen a casino like this one, the support never responds to emails  >:(

  • I have new chat today.... So I very hope, that monday I really see my money... If monday they not send money - so this casino really will be BIG LIAR. They have last chance cleanse their name!!!

    Michael Sat, 10/03/15 05:33:07 pm UTC
    Welcome to BetFTV. How may I help you?



    sissi 05:33:19 pm
    Hi


    Michael 05:33:46 pm
    Hello

     
    sissi 05:34:30 pm
    Michael you is new agent again... I not write with you else. Your casino have new agent every day... So, ok.... I need know about my withdraw



    Michael 05:34:56 pm
    May i have your user Id please ?



    sissi 05:35:09 pm
    yes, ......




    Michael 05:35:42 pm
    Let me check your withdrawal


    sissi 05:35:49 pm
    ok
    so?


    Michael 05:42:48 pm
    As we have checked your account and we found that your withdrawal of €5000 has been processed successfully and next withdrawal will processed by Monday


    sissi 05:43:14 pm
    Really monday, yes?


    Michael 05:43:20 pm
    yes
    If you want then you can play with us continue I will give you today 110% bonus on each deposit


    sissi 05:45:13 pm
    thanks, I waitn on money and maybe later. Because I wait 1 month already and still only write me - we send next week, up to friday, up to.... , agani next week etc... So I want see monday my money on my Neteller and next I can play... So I hope that really you send...



    Michael 05:45:24 pm
    Sure



    sissi 05:45:43 pm

    I read on LCB....
    very very lot complaints...
    why your BRAND casino have slowly payment?
    You is new casino, brand Fashion TV, and your name is very very bad now..... :-(



    Michael 05:50:56 pm
    As we said to you that due to slight technical error some players got + I am sorry to inform you sir but that was earlier happened with us due to some problem but now that problem get completely changes and there is no more slow payment exist with our casino anymore



    sissi 05:53:09 pm
    Michael, technical error 1 month..... So ok, I hope that monday I receive money and you cleanse your name :-) So bye up to monday, I wait money ;-)


    Michael 05:53:38 pm
    I really appreciate your cooperation with us and surely we try our best to clear your cashout on time Is there anything else i can help you today?


    sissi 05:53:59 pm
    no, thanks, bye




    Michael 05:54:13 pm
    you are welcome!


  • I've done some research online and I am sorry to say,bad news.Let me give four examples

    1.betftv non payment of 19700 euros
    2.betftv non payment of 6545 euros
    3.betftv non payment of 1606 euros
    4.betftv non payment of 5000 euros.

    I am sorry guys but in my opinion this is rogue casino sad

  • About FashionTV Gaming Group N.V.

    The FashionTV Gaming Group N.V. (FTVGG) has been formed as a new joint venture between FashionTV and a group of online gaming industry experts. FTVGG holds the exclusive global license for all FashionTV branded online gaming activities, including casino, sportsbook, poker, bingo, lotto, games of skill and more.

    Since its inception in 1997, FashionTV has set the standard for fashion broadcasting, and is the only 24-hour fashion, beauty and lifestyle television station worldwide. Broadcast in 193 countries to over 470 million viewers across 530 TV platforms, and with 7 billion public TV sites around the world, FashionTV has become a global brand with a reach that extends far beyond its broadcasts.

    FTVGG is the first to bridge the gap between the fashion and online gaming industries, with an offering that takes the proven popularity of themed casinos to a brand-new level, synonymous with the style and sophistication of the FashionTV brand.

    The FTVGG offering is powered by leading software providers SBTECH, Microgaming, NetEnt and Betsoft.


  • I've done some research online and I am sorry to say,bad news.Let me give four examples

    1.betftv non payment of 19700 euros
    2.betftv non payment of 6545 euros
    3.betftv non payment of 1606 euros
    4.betftv non payment of 5000 euros.

    I am sorry guys but in my opinion this is rogue casino sad


    Possibly so, but I am still hoping they'd get around.
    There is always a chance.
    Btw, those are the same cases from this very topic. So clearing up those which they can (and should be) would, I think, clear up their name entirely.



    Anyway, I have received an email from them.
    They have now changed their claim into something else altogether. That I have played enough, but not enough, at the same time.

    Quick summary -
    They now made a claim that I have committed irregular gameplay, defining what they mean here:

    " Regardless of the player’s provided screenshots, as per the terms and condition that  the customer has accepted upon registration ‘Should the Casino deem that irregular game play has occurred with or without the use of bonus funds, the Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings and bonuses’.

    After carefully examining the user’s gaming session our Fraud department has found such irregular game play, more precisely suspicious amount of wager compared to the bonus followed by an immediate withdrawal request submitted by the player."

    I have replied with
    1. The casino sets those requirements themselves. They cannot rightfully void anything if the player has completed what the casino has set.
    It would make no sense for them not to respect the amounts they picked themselves. Noone could ever withdraw.

    2. In my particular case, I have played 29587.5€. The requirement was 23790€.
    In other words, I have played way, way, way over the required amount anyway. There was no "immediate withdrawal request" with regards to the rollover.

    And, I haven't even managed to place said request anyway.




    A more complete version of the correspondence, if anyone wants to read the details, follows below.

    The gist of their email -

    ... event that the casino believes a user is abusing or attempting to abuse a bonus using different systems or strategies including but not limited to playing in a way designed solely to exploit any given bonus, then the Casino may, at its sole discretion, block, deny, suspend, withhold or withdraw any potential winning from any bonus, in such manner we deem fit and/or withhold the pay out of the proceeds of such abuse to the player in question. Where Bet FTV shall act in good faith to determine if there was actual or attempted abuse.

    Regardless of the player’s provided screenshots, as per the terms and condition that  the customer has accepted upon registration ‘Should the Casino deem that irregular game play has occurred with or without the use of bonus funds, the Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings and bonuses’.

    After carefully examining the user’s gaming session our Fraud department has found such irregular game play, more precisely suspicious amount of wager compared to the bonus followed by an immediate withdrawal request submitted by the player.
    We would like to note that in the event of any dispute, the decision of the Casino Management will be considered full and final. Participation of any player in our Welcome Package is subject to acceptance of the casino's full Terms & Conditions.
    In conclusion, the said winnings are considered void by Bet FTV. You are invited to claim your initial deposit by requesting a withdrawal and after submitting the necessary documents for verification.



    My reply, quoting a part of their email first -

    " Bet FTV shall act in good faith to determine if there was actual or attempted abuse."
    " our Fraud department has found such irregular game play, more precisely suspicious amount of wager compared to the bonus followed by an immediate withdrawal request submitted by the player."


    This seems like a generic email which cannot apply to my case and seems to have been sent by someone not aware of the facts surrouding it. Possibly deliberately so.
    Let me point out the most important two of those facts.

    1. Fact is, casino is the one who sets their own wagering requirements for any promos they offer.
    So a casino can never refuse paying out their rightful winners based on the fact that a person "has not wagered enough", provided that the person has completed their wagering requirements. That is precisely what said requirement is for.
    The reasoning for that is simple. The casino itself determined it, and therefore they must uphold it.
    And the fact is, if the casino wanted everyone to play a larger amount first, the onus was on them to say so and put it in writing. That is the only way "good faith" can reasonably be seen there. Not by saying "wager x amount" and later saying "just kidding, x isn't enough".
    It is a written, formal agreement.


    2. Regardless of that, the whole story is inapplicable in my particular case anyway.
    My wagering requirement was 23790€ ((400+393) times 30).
    Had I played 23800, or 24000, or 24500, then MAYBE you might have a case (you would not really, but let's take that for the sake of discussion).

    But I love to play. And I have continued playing on and on, way beyond that, since I felt I was on a hot streak; and I have played precisely 29587.5€ - an amount that is much, much, much larger than any requirements I had. Over 5500€ larger!

    The claim that I have made a "suspicious amount of wager compared to the bonus followed by an immediate withdrawal request", as you put it, is therefore clearly false in my case whichever way anyone looks at it. Again, reasonable conclusions and "good faith" are more than obvious.

    2.6/ 5

  • This is really joke...................................... Everey agent only lie................ Why this casino has licence????

    My chat from saturday :

    Michael 05:42:48 pm

    As we have checked your account and we found that your withdrawal of €5000 has been processed successfully and next withdrawal will processed by Monday



    sissi 05:43:14 pm
    Really monday, yes?


    Michael 05:43:20 pm
    yes
    If you want then you can play with us continue
    I will give you today 110% bonus on each deposit


    sissi 05:45:13 pm

    thanks, I waitn on money and maybe later. Because I wait 1 month already and still only write me - we send next week, up to friday, up to.... , agani next week etc... So I want see monday my money on my Neteller and next I can play... So I hope that really you send...





    Michael 05:45:24 pm

    Sure


    Michael 05:50:56 pm

    As we said to you that due to slight technical error some players got +
    I am sorry to inform you sir but that was earlier happened with us
    due to some problem but now that problem get completely changes and there is no more slow payment exist with our casino anymore

    sissi 05:53:09 pm

    Michael, technical error 1 month..... So ok, I hope that monday I receive money and you cleanse your name :-)
    So bye up to monday, I wait money ;-)





    Michael 05:53:38 pm

    I really appreciate your cooperation with us and surely we try our best to clear your cashout on time


    So, of course, no money...........

    So, I again go to chat, yesterday : 
    Rachel 03:07:16 pm

    Dear Eli,you will get an email from Finance department till tomorrow before proceeding your withdrawal





    sissi 03:07:50 pm

    Rachel why mail?
    first withdraw they not send mail
    I wait on money, the same as first withdraw they can send, on Neteller
    so why mail?





    Rachel 03:12:05 pm

    It means that your withdrawal of 10000 € has been transferred successfully from our end





    sissi 03:14:24 pm

    I not understand Rachel.... what
    I still have only 5000





    Rachel 03:14:41 pm

    yes





    sissi 03:14:41 pm

    and next 5000?





    Rachel 03:14:55 pm

    but tomorrow you will get paid another 5000





    sissi 03:15:09 pm

    aha..... Rchel, really?....





    Rachel 03:15:14 pm

    yes



    Rachel 03:18:10 pm

    dear Eli , As you know that finance team has been processed your withdrawal of 5000 successfully
    So you must understand that they will process your another withdrawal 100%
    you should not be worried





    sissi 03:20:16 pm

    ok, I believe you that tomorrow I receive money..... But about worried - I wait 1 month, what no standart for casino, If you unedrstand me....





    Rachel 03:20:52 pm

    We appreciate your patience
    Thanks for that





    sissi 03:25:17 pm

    ok, so I wait tomorrow....you work tomorrow?





    Rachel 03:25:35 pm

    Yes
    I will be here for your help





    sissi 03:26:00 pm

    ok, so thanks for now... bye





    Rachel 03:26:07 pm

    Bye


    Of course, still no money...................

    ok, I go again on chat , today :

    MichaelWelcome to BetFTV. How may I help you?

    ekravcova Hi Michael

    2:18 pm MichaelHI

    how may i help you?
    ekravcova Michael...I write with you saturday....

    about my withdraw
    Michaelwell as you know that you already got 5000

    ekravcova so I wait, wait, wait

    2:21 pm Michaelso the remaining 5000 will be process very soon


    VERY SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is joke!!!!!

    I need answer from Sam - rep from BetFtv about my withdraw!!!!!!!

    Because my patience is end!!!!!

    I wait 40 days already!!!!





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