Cindy: ty it is rather long but very factual and I appreciate you taking the time to read it
Tommy: It's the least I could do
Cindy: You seem like the only one who actually cares at this point
Cindy: :-)
Tommy: I assure you, at this moment in time, there are a lot of people who would like to see this resolved
Tommy: I mean, this is a new thing for us here, too
Tommy: Personally, I have yet to encounter a situation where the casino logs, and player's own logs don't match
Tommy: So this is very serious
Cindy: I don't feel Nate does...he sent a very very short, no feeling email yesterday pretty much saying too bad you played it and had to proof to show it
Cindy: I agree..I have never had to check my logs because I have never had this problem ever in my life
Tommy: I'll talk to Nate
Cindy: I only check deposits, withdrawals, etc and if I have a free chip in my cashier
Cindy: Can you see what I was talking about in my forum post? And see the screenshots?
Tommy: Well, for a start, you'll start seeing a lot more chips, so you'd better login at least once every day ^_^
Tommy: Yeah, I see the two chat sessions, with Kris and Paul
Tommy: And the screens
Tommy: Looking at them as we speak
Tommy: Ok, I think I know what's going on
Tommy: Regarding the 3rd screen: Promotions
Tommy: The one you posted
Tommy: You were playing without a promotion of any kind, so it's not going to show up in there
Tommy: The second screenshot- please try to look for wagering / betting history on September 27th
Tommy: In your casino logs
Cindy: i am
Tommy: As the bets seem to start on September 27, at 00:38 AM
Tommy: And the reversals screen: the 300 Wire Transfer that's been canceled- it's the one we're talking about
Tommy: And the game play began immediately after it, at 00:3
Tommy: *** 00:38 AM
Cindy: if it is not showing a gaming history because i wasn't playing with a promo..than whey does the rest of my reversals show a gaming history
Cindy: yes, I am aware of that and i was out of money about 20 seconds before that and logged off until i logged back in the next morning around 9
Cindy: it does show game history on my reversals on my side except any for the 300 in question
Tommy: Ok, from the first screen to the last one
Tommy: On the first one: the reversals screen
Tommy: The reversal on top, that says 300 wire transfer, with the status canceled- reversed at 00:38:54 AM
Tommy: That is the reversal in the question
Tommy: The second screenshot shows your gaming history from
September 26 (it says so right under "Wager History")
Tommy: The bets were made on September 27th
Cindy: yes it is. I had three withdrawals. Two for 500 and one for 400. I did reverse the 400 and left 100 in my account to play with and immidiatly withdrew the 300. Once i lost my 100 I was done and logged off until the next am when i got my free 50
Tommy: The third screen is "Promotion history", not betting history
Cindy: 38:21 is my last play history for the 27th until 9:05 am on the 27th
Cindy: the play up until the 38:21 started with the free 50 and then it ended with my 100 reversal
Tommy: Have you received the email I sent?
Cindy: yes, but it doesn't add up to me if that makes since. i am still stuck in my head with my account history not matching yours
Cindy: but i am still looking at it
Tommy: Ok
Tommy: Do you see the two screenshots?
Tommy: The ones I sent/
Tommy: ?
Cindy: yes
Tommy: Let's try and make sense of them together
Cindy: k
Tommy: On the first screenshot- do you see the highlighted section from time code 00:38:21 till time code 00:39:05 ?
Cindy: yes
Tommy: Now, if you compare it to the first of the 3 screenshots you posted
Tommy: It is the exact time when you made the $300 reversal
Cindy: k
Tommy: If you like at the time stamp of your screenshot (00:38:54)
Tommy: So far- makes sense?
Cindy: yes
Tommy: Ok. Then, there is 40 minutes of game play- I did not include the screenshots in the email, cause there are a lot of them
Cindy: but i promise i was done playing at 38:21:15 when my balance hit zero. And that is what angers me is that no one can tell me how we both have different game histories
Cindy: I first of all would NEVER lose 300 bucks in 40 minutes
Tommy: 38:21:15 ?
Cindy: yes, it is on my screen shot of my game history
Tommy: One sec, please
Tommy: The second screenshot, that says "Wager History"?
Cindy: that is when I placed my last bet for the 27th...logged off and then didn't play again until 9:05:17 am the next morning
Cindy: yes
Tommy: Yes, but that screenshot shows your bets for September 26
Cindy: and all my other reversals do show up in my game historty
Tommy: It's a different day
Cindy: It started on the 26th and ended after midnight on the 27th
Cindy: I didn't show all those screen shots because they were not what was in question
Tommy: The reversal of 300 was done on September 27th- only 40 minutes after midnight, but the reversal and the gameplay is still registered on the 27th
Tommy: Check out the Wager History on September 27
Cindy: yes, i see that in my screen shot but in game history there is none for the 300 and it only shows in what you sent me
Cindy: if i made the withdrawal i would know and i wouldn't be making a fool of myself right now with you, Paul, Kris, Daniel or on the LCB forum.
Tommy: I don't think you're making a fool out of yourself- we're talking about a misunderstanding
Tommy: The system could be a little tricky
Tommy: The dates / times could confuse
Tommy: What does your wagering history on the 27th show?
Cindy: This is just weird. If everything matched I would understand a little more
Cindy: let me see
Tommy: Ok, go ahead, I'll wait right here
Cindy: okay, on the screen shots it just says Yesterday for the one i did and and it just shows a time for the one i didn't do. but i did the screen shots asap. now in my history it says i did the first reversal on the 26th and the one i didn't do says the 2th
Cindy: sorry the 27th
Tommy: That's basically the one I'm talking about
Tommy: Can you see the time stamp? When, exactly, on the 27th? What time?
Cindy: i did do a reversal on the 26th around 11 and then did my withdrawal for 300 and then after i logged off and seconds after my gaming history ends it shows the 300 reversal and it was on the 27th after shortly after midnight. like i said my history shows i lost my 100 bucks after midnight and there is no more history except for the 300 reversal i didn't do until i logged on at 9 somthing am
Cindy: yes
Cindy: 12:38:54 and that is what it says on both my screen shot and my history
Tommy: Yup. Now if you look at the first screenshot I have sent- that's also the time when your balance goes from 0 to $300
Cindy: i made the screen shots on the morning of the 27th after playing my free 50 and that is why is did not have a date because it was the same day
Tommy: Indeed
Cindy: i see what you are saying and i am not by no means trying to be a pain in the butt and i would agree with your proof but it does not match my proof that is in my own casino software and i have checked it time and time again since last week and it hasn't changed at all. it is still showing what i have in the screenshot and not what you emailed me
Cindy: i was also told you can tell what ip address was playing after i was done playing for that night. is that possible?
Tommy: Which one? The withdrawal, or the wagering history?
Tommy: I'll check the IP thing, please hold
Cindy: i am the only one who gambles in my house and we only have one computer
Cindy: ty
Cindy: and can you see if it matches say when i played on the 1st of october
Cindy: someone said they think someone hacked into my computer since they lost the money so quickly
Cindy: to your question "which one" it is the wagering history that does not match for either of us
Tommy: Well, I can see that you've been playing from one IP address on Sept 30th and Oct 1st, and since then, and until today (including right now), you've been playing on a slightly different IP address.
Cindy: that's strange...same computer...same dsl box
Tommy: It's the same ISP though- the same company
Tommy: No, IP addresses change all the time, it's nothing new
Cindy: was it the same when the reversal of 300 took place?
Tommy: Afraid I can't see that, it only keeps the last few sessions in memory
Tommy: But let me see if I can find out
Cindy: yeah, cause if you read the 3 hour chat session with Paul, he promised to send me the ip address and game history the very next day and nothing EVER came
Tommy: Ok, I'll need to fish this particular information from tech- might take me a few hours
Tommy: Just sent them an email
Cindy: you or me?
Cindy: oh okay...i see what you are saying
Tommy: I mean I have just sent them an email
Tommy:
Cindy: lol
Cindy: i do appreciate you taking the time to speak to me, reading the lcb forum, investigating, and taking me serious. I haven't felt anyone from Golden Cherry has up until this point
Cindy: the way i see it you can see i do a lot of reversals and have never questioned any before or after the 300 one i didn't do
Tommy: I never implied you're being dishonest
Tommy: Just a misunderstanding
Cindy: i wouldn't want anything to jeapordize my account at your casino. I just sucked it up as me losing my other reversals as luck but when I know I didn't do a reversal it makes me question everything now
Cindy: and i will check my account daily as i do any way as you suggested.
Tommy: As for the staff- we are trying to provide the best customer service possible, and the CS reps can deal with roughly 90% of all problems / requests, but this is one of those times where we need an in-depth approach
Tommy: As the Support Manager- that's what I'm here for
Tommy: Nah, your casino account will not be jeopardized ^_^
Tommy: You have nothing to fear
Cindy: since most rivals quite taking US players you are my main rival I play at and most of my cash went to titan, Slots Jungle and Winapalce so I knew you were a trustworthy casino
Cindy: well paul made me feel that way...when he mentioned ip addresses and said you need to really make sure you did not do the reversal
Cindy: and as for nate in finance, he emailed me yesterday with a short to the point too bad email. i emailed him back and asked him to take a look at what you did, etc and i have heard nothing from him
Tommy: I really apologize about the bad experience here so far
Tommy: I'll try to assure that it never happens again for you, from now on
Cindy: plus when all this happened i went straight to chat and kris emailed the appropiate dept. and told me to also and then paul said the same thing and i never heard anything until yesterday
Cindy: okay
Cindy: i will await your answer on this issue
Tommy: Okay
Tommy: Meanwhile, you will find something nice from Daniel and myself in your Cashier
info: Your chat transcript will be sent to [email protected] at the end of your chat.
Tommy: The least we can do, I think
Cindy: okay tyvm! :-)
Cindy: I hope to hear from you soon. Take care, have a nice day and ty ty ty for actually listening to my issue
Cindy: Bye Tommy and it was nice to meet you.
Tommy: It's been a pleasure, and I'll be in touch
Cindy: ty bye
Tommy: By the way- you ever need anything and feel like there's no response
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